Whitebred Shorthorn

[choochter]

Nice heifer with a grand calf @choochter . How's my favourite cow getting on?

I m not sure how to break this to you @CharcoalWally ...........drapped deid just before christmas, unlike spike milligan she never told me she was ill

 

[CharcoalWally]

Aw bloody hell. Sorry to hear this @choochter . Always the good ones. Did she leave you any nice daughters?

Some years ago I lost my very best and favourite cow to fluke. She was the first cow to be diagnosed with it on this farm. I often thought why couldn't it have been some old plug it happened to , but it never does.

 

[choochter]

Aw bloody hell. Sorry to hear this @choochter . Always the good ones. Did she leave you any nice daughters?

Some years ago I lost my very best and favourite cow to fluke. She was the first cow to be diagnosed with it on this farm. I often thought why couldn't it have been some old plug it happened to , but it never does.

Ha ! Snap ! She was the first to be diagnosed with fluke 2012, I had never had it here before. She was bottle jawed so i thought it might be liver damage.
Yes, she has a daughter in the herd.

 

[west coast angus]

My new whitebred shorthornX Simmental heifer 2 years old.

 

[CharcoalWally]

Cracking heifer @west coast angus ! reminds me of the cows of this cross we had many years ago. That roan colour takes me back.

 

[west coast angus]

Cracking heifer @west coast angus ! reminds me of the cows of this cross we had many years ago. That roan colour takes me back.

Thanks, Hope they were good cows?? what bull did you use on them?

 

[CharcoalWally]

QUOTE="west coast angus, post: 2573680, member: 2665"]Thanks, Hope they were good cows?? what bull did you use on them?[/QUOTE]
Yeah , they were really good cows of their time. I think I probably sold most of the heifer calves back then , I was too strapped for cash to be able to keep them , but the ones I had were really good .

I remember selling some of the heifer calves to some of the Mid/North Argyll boys to take them home to bull. They really liked them on their higher farms and thought they made great cows. Why the Whitebred people didn't try to build a new market around opportunities like this is beyond me. They remained obsessed with their blue grey niche and failed to notice that the Simm Luing was ousting them. Now , 35 - 40 years on , farmers like yourself are discovering it for themselves. That's a lot of time wasted and it didn't do the breed numbers any favours.

However , never mind the past , it's the present that matters and I think that for the first time in years , there's a new small chance for the breed and that they should grab it with both hands. Hill cow numbers have plummeted over the last half century and there isn't the same market out there , so it will be hard work. Go for it.

What did we bull them with? Give you three guesses.

 

[JP1]

QUOTE="west coast angus, post: 2573680, member: 2665"]Thanks, Hope they were good cows?? what bull did you use on them?

Yeah , they were really good cows of their time. I think I probably sold most of the heifer calves back then , I was too strapped for cash to be able to keep them , but the ones I had were really good .

I remember selling some of the heifer calves to some of the Mid/North Argyll boys to take them home to bull. They really liked them on their higher farms and thought they made great cows. Why the Whitebred people didn't try to build a new market around opportunities like this is beyond me. They remained obsessed with their blue grey niche and failed to notice that the Simm Luing was ousting them. Now , 35 - 40 years on , farmers like yourself are discovering it for themselves. That's a lot of time wasted and it didn't do the breed numbers any favours.

However , never mind the past , it's the present that matters and I think that for the first time in years , there's a new small chance for the breed and that they should grab it with both hands. Hill cow numbers have plummeted over the last half century and there isn't the same market out there , so it will be hard work. Go for it.

What did we bull them with? Give you three guesses.[/QUOTE]

Could this work in reverse, I wonder? If I built up a few WBS cows and bulled them to my red Galloway bull as heifers and then my neighbour's Simmental bull?

 

[west coast angus]

Go for it @JP1, you will be left with great heifers, a lot of people around here are finding the simmy heifers out of blue grey cows are making fantastic hill cows!!

 

[JP1]

Go for it @JP1, you will be left with great heifers, a lot of people around here are finding the simmy heifers out of blue grey cows are making fantastic hill cows!!

My problem I reckon is the red genetics, red roans are a no-no in the Blue Grey World are they not?

 

[west coast angus]

Don't know, round here it would make no difference a good cow is a good cow no matter her colour, Is there much demand down your way for these types of cattle?

 

[CharcoalWally]

Just seen this in my local paper.

WHITEBRED SHORTHORN ASSOCIATION

Open day - 28th July , 11am , Kinnell House , Killin , Perthshire , FK21 8SR.

Demonstrating the Whitebred Shorthorn's important role in improving suckler herds profitability.

By kind permission of Mr and Mrs Dowling and Mr MacAskill.

Sounds like it would be a good day out for the WS enthusiasts on here.

 

[Giles1]

My problem I reckon is the red genetics, red roans are a no-no in the Blue Grey World are they not?

Not going to pretend to know but possibly a red roan could be perceived as a Beef Shorthorn x even if it is a Whitebred Shorthorn x ,which is more likely to be grey out of black cows?So for marketing/breed id purposes,grey is better?

 

[Old Tip]

A trio of Whitebreds or Cumberland Whites as they used to be known, father, mother and daughter, not got many but they are great cattle. If you have a chance to show this to your dad @Darren Hough we used to chat about Whitebreds at the DSWA committee meetings a few years back.

 

[Old Tip]

Just seen this in my local paper.

WHITEBRED SHORTHORN ASSOCIATION

Open day - 28th July , 11am , Kinnell House , Killin , Perthshire , FK21 8SR.

Demonstrating the Whitebred Shorthorn's important role in improving suckler herds profitability.

By kind permission of Mr and Mrs Dowling and Mr MacAskill.

Sounds like it would be a good day out for the WS enthusiasts on here.

Did anyone go, any photos if you did, bit far for us but I have seen the odd photo on FB

 

[Anonymous...]

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A trio of Whitebreds or Cumberland Whites as they used to be known, father, mother and daughter, not got many but they are great cattle

How old is the heifer calf OT, looks a good size
We have two bull calfs one is looking promising for a breeding bull but the other looks a bit "slow"
I'll put a pic up in morning

 

[Old Tip]

She's about six months old @montydog got two heifer calves this year plus a few xbred ones. Really chuffed with her and the other heifer they are growing out nicely on good milk and grass and have a certain style about them.

 

[Roy_H]

She was AI'd but didn't hold.
So I got a WS bull who has bulled my other WS cow, but a 10mth old Baz bull bulled this one before the WS bull arrived!
The WS bull will bull them both this year. And this wee one later on.
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Very nice cattle. Why is the Cambridge roll in the middle of the field? Did the horse drop dead?

 

[Anonymous...]

She's about six months old @montydog got two heifer calves this year plus a few xbred ones. Really chuffed with her and the other heifer they are growing out nicely on good milk and grass and have a certain style about them.

We hoped for at least one heifer but as said got two bull calfs
One of the cows has only one pap and I've been bottle feeding her calf but now the little so and so won't come near, he's sucking on his mother and eating grass but seems a bit behind the others, hopefully over winter I can house the two calfs separately and give them some mix and see if he will catch up

 

[choochter]

Very nice cattle. Why is the Cambridge roll in the middle of the field? Did the horse drop dead?

that was back in 2013 - it's not there now


and that white calf now has her third calf at foot !