Who ARE the remainers going to vote for ?

Exfarmer

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Location
Bury St Edmunds
Fooked is the understatement, we have been s****e on by hard on politicians from both sides promising they are never going to leave , only to change their minds the minute they get offered power.
We have a leader of the opposition who promises the near opposite of his true position and most true Brits could never vote for.
I can never vote for a candidate such as our local Matt Hancock who was always opposed to Brexit but is happy to take Boris’s shilling.
locally we have three candidates and none has bothered to introduce themselves
 

Hindsight

Member
Location
Lincolnshire
Fooked is the understatement, we have been s****e on by hard on politicians from both sides promising they are never going to leave , only to change their minds the minute they get offered power.
We have a leader of the opposition who promises the near opposite of his true position and most true Brits could never vote for.
I can never vote for a candidate such as our local Matt Hancock who was always opposed to Brexit but is happy to take Boris’s shilling.
locally we have three candidates and none has bothered to introduce themselves


Not even sure our Tory candidate has even bothered to come to the constituency. Think he moved to his London flat a couple of weeks ago, ready to march into the correct lobby when commanded.
 

Danllan

Member
Location
Sir Gar / Carms
I think I would vote for Plaid Cymru, if it was an option, apparently they are proposing jailing any politicians who tell lies.
only thing is , we would need an awful lot of new prisons :)
It is a fine idea that I've been thinking about for years, with a caveat: they must be allowed to do so in matters of the national interest, such as in war or when there is a security threat. Such things aside, it would be good to see them held to account.

But... there are a couple of major problems. Firstly, Parliamentary Privilege is a very important concept. Second, it would be very hard to disprove that something was 'honest opinion' when said.

I make that last point apolitically, since there are things on both sides of many arguments that some will find absurd; but, if the politician says 'I think...' it would be extremely difficult to class it as a lie.

As for needing more prisons, no. Hard to think of a more appropriate punishment than the lot of them shut in like sardines and being driven up the wall by having to listen to one another with nowhere else to go. :)
 

Mek

Member
I am an archetypal floating voter. I’ve never had party allegiances and always try and vote for the party I think will do most good for the country regardless of the chances of the party winning in my particular constituency. This election I am for the first time voting labour but only because the tactical voting sites tell me it is the best vote to usurp the tories. I must admit I was surprised that labour was the tactical vote because until the last election labour had never been prominent in the constituency.
 
Fooked is the understatement, we have been s****e on by hard on politicians from both sides promising they are never going to leave , only to change their minds the minute they get offered power.
We have a leader of the opposition who promises the near opposite of his true position and most true Brits could never vote for.
I can never vote for a candidate such as our local Matt Hancock who was always opposed to Brexit but is happy to take Boris’s shilling.
locally we have three candidates and none has bothered to introduce themselves


I don’t think that your not voting blue will make too much difference in West Suffolk.
Any how my vote will cancel yours!
I agree though MH is a classic greasy pole climber.
 

Danllan

Member
Location
Sir Gar / Carms
Probably not as stupid as your post.As you always state you’re a stickler for facts.If you read my post you will see I was asking a question. I have not stated I was a supporter of Corbyn. I was asking why the majority here support Johnson and the tories.
As for my age,I’ve voted in every general election for the last fifty years ( just for the record I’ve never voted labour )so have lived through most things you mention but I remember them differently

I am an archetypal floating voter. I’ve never had party allegiances and always try and vote for the party I think will do most good for the country regardless of the chances of the party winning in my particular constituency. This election I am for the first time voting labour but only because the tactical voting sites tell me it is the best vote to usurp the tories. I must admit I was surprised that labour was the tactical vote because until the last election labour had never been prominent in the constituency.
You're supporting Jeremy Corbyn then... :woot: :banghead: :ROFLMAO:
 

Widgetone

Member
Trade
Location
Westish Suffolk
I am an archetypal floating voter. I’ve never had party allegiances and always try and vote for the party I think will do most good for the country regardless of the chances of the party winning in my particular constituency. This election I am for the first time voting labour but only because the tactical voting sites tell me it is the best vote to usurp the tories. I must admit I was surprised that labour was the tactical vote because until the last election labour had never been prominent in the constituency.
Almost minded to do the same, but I really wonder if these tactical voting sites are politically biased.
I trust absolutely nothing/no one of a political nature these days.
 

Mek

Member
You're supporting Jeremy Corbyn then... :woot::banghead::ROFLMAO:
????Not really . I’m just very anti Tory. I don’t think that Labour have a snowballs chance in hell of beating the tories with Corbyn in charge.IMO ,even if labour did get in, I cannot see Corbyn lasting. If they don’t get in I think he will be out even quicker. I just hope they replace him with someone more sensible,which in my opinion rules out John Mc Donal, Rebecca Long Bailey and Dianne Abbot. But I do think Labour have more politicians with integrity than the Tories.
 

Danllan

Member
Location
Sir Gar / Carms
RBL is being groomed as a future Labour leader, if I was advising Labour I'd tell them she's a poor choice. Ditto, Keir Starmer, good Counsel, but a man of straw. They need to move away from the left, and they need someone who has not been a career politician since year dot.

If I wanted Labour to prosper - which I do, because I think there has to be a credible Opposition - I would tell them to give serious thought to Dan Jarvis. He has a solid background, has had no foot-in-mouth episodes and is fairly bright; he also has a decent majority and so would allow for stability at the top.

But, he isn't female, queer or brown, and that will count against him... :banghead:

@Mek I don't think your last comment is true, to immediately anyway. Of course it might be, but the opposite could be true too - how many Labour MPs genuinely think that JC would be bad for the UK and have openly said so? The truth is, probably, that most MPs have flexible morals, as do most people.
 

Muck Spreader

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Limousin
SNP but they're not big in Lincolnshire

Apparently they were toying with the idea of contesting some of the boarder constituencies in the last election, but I don't think anything came of it.

We are voting for them this time. Something I wouldn't believe I would be doing 3 years ago, Mainly because they have a reasonable number of principled and intelligent politicians who appear to talk sense, even if I don't necessarily agree with all their policies.
 

Muck Spreader

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Limousin
RBL is being groomed as a future Labour leader, if I was advising Labour I'd tell them she's a poor choice. Ditto, Keir Starmer, good Counsel, but a man of straw. They need to move away from the left, and they need someone who has not been a career politician since year dot.

If I wanted Labour to prosper - which I do, because I think there has to be a credible Opposition - I would tell them to give serious thought to Dan Jarvis. He has a solid background, has had no foot-in-mouth episodes and is fairly bright; he also has a decent majority and so would allow for stability at the top.

But, he isn't female, queer or brown, and that will count against him... :banghead:

@Mek I don't think your last comment is true, to immediately anyway. Of course it might be, but the opposite could be true too - how many Labour MPs genuinely think that JC would be bad for the UK and have openly said so? The truth is, probably, that most MPs have flexible morals, as do most people.

Dan Jarvis was virtually offered the leadership on a plate a few years ago, but declined it due to the loss of his wife and having 3 young children, IMO he would have been a good choice. Rebecca Long-Bailey as you say is being groomed for it. I think she needs time to mature and mellow a bit more, but I don't think she is stupid and could make a good leader in the future.
 

Danllan

Member
Location
Sir Gar / Carms
Dan Jarvis was virtually offered the leadership on a plate a few years ago, but declined it due to the loss of his wife and having 3 young children, IMO he would have been a good choice. Rebecca Long-Bailey as you say is being groomed for it. I think she needs time to mature and mellow a bit more, but I don't think she is stupid and could make a good leader in the future.
I don't think she is thick, but she isn't up to that job. DJ's story is very sad, but time changes things and he could still be, in fact would still be a good choice for both Labour and the country.
 

lloyd

Member
Location
Herefordshire
RBL is being groomed as a future Labour leader, if I was advising Labour I'd tell them she's a poor choice. Ditto, Keir Starmer, good Counsel, but a man of straw. They need to move away from the left, and they need someone who has not been a career politician since year dot.

If I wanted Labour to prosper - which I do, because I think there has to be a credible Opposition - I would tell them to give serious thought to Dan Jarvis. He has a solid background, has had no foot-in-mouth episodes and is fairly bright; he also has a decent majority and so would allow for stability at the top.

But, he isn't female, queer or brown, and that will count against him... :banghead:

@Mek I don't think your last comment is true, to immediately anyway. Of course it might be, but the opposite could be true too - how many Labour MPs genuinely think that JC would be bad for the UK and have openly said so? The truth is, probably, that most MPs have flexible morals, as do most people.

Spreading the army love are we. :love:

Still haunting you see below.

What are BJs policies regarding sustaining
a vibrant and successful UK agricultural industry?

You must know by now as I've been asking you for weeks.
Oh and if you could hurry up as I've only got till tomorrow!
 

SFI - What % were you taking out of production?

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Red Tractor drops launch of green farming scheme amid anger from farmers

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As reported in Independent


quote: “Red Tractor has confirmed it is dropping plans to launch its green farming assurance standard in April“

read the TFF thread here: https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/gfc-was-to-go-ahead-now-not-going-ahead.405234/
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