Who gives a flying feck whether Starmer had a beer?

BrianV

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Livestock Farmer
Exactly, typical daily fail crap.
never in my life voted Labour but this is complete s**e and nothing like Bojo’s all day everyday party.
even that is a joke when looking at current world affairs.
the media on all sides should hang there head in shame.
but then why am I surprised
True, but the Tories rightly have convinced themselves that people will never vote Starmer into Number 10 so they can do pretty much as they choose, it would be the best thing all round if Starmer had to fall on his sword & Labour had an electable leader for a change!
 

JP1

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DeeGee

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Whatever he may or may not have done, at least he has the decency to pledge that he will stand down if found guilty.

So unlike the No.10 incumbents, who have no sense of right or wrong and absolutely no moral compass whatsoever.

Starmer has preached long and hard for months about the need for Johnson to resign. So if Starmer himself is found to have broken the law then of course he needs to resign, and he has said that he will do.

If he resigns, then the opposition parties will occupy the moral high ground; thus adding fuel to their campaign to overthrow the current government.
 

neilo

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Montgomeryshire
Whatever he may or may not have done, at least he has the decency to pledge that he will stand down if found guilty.

So unlike the No.10 incumbents, who have no sense of right or wrong and absolutely no moral compass whatsoever.

Starmer has preached long and hard for months about the need for Johnson to resign. So if Starmer himself is found to have broken the law then of course he needs to resign, and he has said that he will do.

If he resigns, then the opposition parties will occupy the moral high ground; thus adding fuel to their campaign to overthrow the current government.

Whilst I agree with the principle, technically, he has said he will ‘offer his resignation’. The Party around him, those that have suggested he make that statement, may choose not to accept his resignation of course…
 

DeeGee

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Whilst I agree with the principle, technically, he has said he will ‘offer his resignation’. The Party around him, those that have suggested he make that statement, may choose not to accept his resignation of course…
Ah! Neilo, you are obviously well versed in the most detailed intricacies of legal terminology.
Have you ever been called to the bar Sir, or do you prefer to order your drinks from the table?

Of course you may well be right; and you probably are. In which case the Labour Party must of course accept his offer of resignation, lest they, and he, be rightly accused of the most crass hypocrisy.
 

neilo

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Montgomeryshire
Nothing to do with having a beer is it ?

It was an arranged dinner with at least 7 people from what I saw that went on for hours. Other people couldn't meet and couldn't even see their dying relatives.

If Starmer is okay on this then Boris is okay on what he did.

Rubbish. Whilst Starmer should probably stand down if he’s found guilty, it’s incomparable to what BoJo the Clown is doing.

Starmer wasn’t responsible for making those rules, or telling us everyday that we should abide by them, whilst waving 2 fingers at the regulations himself.
The problem isn’t the rule breaking at number ten, it’s the hypocrisy, and the utter contempt shown to the vast majority of the public that abided by those rules, at considerable personal cost.😡
 

neilo

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Location
Montgomeryshire
Ah! Neilo, you are obviously well versed in the most detailed intricacies of legal terminology.
Have you ever been called to the bar Sir, or do you prefer to order your drinks from the table?

Of course you may well be right; and you probably are. In which case the Labour Party must of course accept his offer of resignation, lest they, and he, be rightly accused of the most crass hypocrisy.

I suspect his Labour chums might well accept his resignation in order to make themselves more electable. They might not have told him that though.🤫
 
Rubbish. Whilst Starmer should probably stand down if he’s found guilty, it’s incomparable to what BoJo the Clown is doing.

Starmer wasn’t responsible for making those rules, or telling us everyday that we should abide by them, whilst waving 2 fingers at the regulations himself.
The problem isn’t the rule breaking at number ten, it’s the hypocrisy, and the utter contempt shown to the vast majority of the public that abided by those rules, at considerable personal cost.😡


What has that got to do with the fact the general public abided by the law ?

What you are showing is your personal distaste for Boris .. which is a personal opinion.

Some people never saw dying relatives or went to funerals - whilst fudge whit politicans partied.

Starmer and his crowd are just as bad as Boris's crowd. None of them should be an MP, none of them have the right to tell others what to do - when they cannot do the same themselves.

A massive cultural problem. God knows why you think this applies just to Number 10. It took Parliament to implement these rules.
 

neilo

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Montgomeryshire
What has that got to do with the fact the general public abided by the law ?

What you are showing is your personal distaste for Boris .. which is a personal opinion.

Some people never saw dying relatives or went to funerals - whilst fudge whit politicans partied.

Starmer and his crowd are just as bad as Boris's crowd. None of them should be an MP, none of them have the right to tell others what to do - when they cannot do the same themselves.

A massive cultural problem. God knows why you think this applies just to Number 10. It took Parliament to implement these rules.

I certainly didn’t say it only applied to number ten, but what they have done is many times more important imo.

But yes, you are correct in saying I have a ‘personal distaste’ for Bozo, but that’s from long before the party incidents. I dislike him, his ilk, and the type of politics they represent.
I was a lifelong Conservative voter, until they chose that bumbling fool as their leader. Are you genuinely happy that someone like him represents our nation on the global stage?
 
I certainly didn’t say it only applied to number ten, but what they have done is many times more important imo.

But yes, you are correct in saying I have a ‘personal distaste’ for Bozo, but that’s from long before the party incidents. I dislike him, his ilk, and the type of politics they represent.
I was a lifelong Conservative voter, until they chose that bumbling fool as their leader. Are you genuinely happy that someone like him represents our nation on the global stage?


If my view of BoJo represented Conservative Voter opinion he would not get in, but nor would I vote for Starmer.

I sort of agree with the ilk comment and I'm sort of blaming the upper classes for most of our ills.

However, I'm an outsider with no real idea who is pulling the strings. Prince Charles and his ilk seem as though they have more power than I thought.

I just want working people in charge - but not unions who IMHO are not working people. BoJo had his chance and he is a twunt.
 

glasshouse

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If my view of BoJo represented Conservative Voter opinion he would not get in, but nor would I vote for Starmer.

I sort of agree with the ilk comment and I'm sort of blaming the upper classes for most of our ills.

However, I'm an outsider with no real idea who is pulling the strings. Prince Charles and his ilk seem as though they have more power than I thought.

I just want working people in charge - but not unions who IMHO are not working people. BoJo had his chance and he is a twunt.
Unions are essential, thats where uk went wrong destroying them
 

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