Who is in favour of an E passport for grain?

[Chrisw]

The AHDB, using levy money have trialled an e passport, mainly for the grain industry for now, but sure it can be rolled out over other sectors.

What is everyone's thoughts on this?

Is it going to benefit farmers? or is it another tool that will end up coming back to bite the industry, whilst delivering most benefits to haulage and end users?

Is it actually necessary?

Here's a link to the report, any views very welcome?
http://cereals.ahdb.org.uk/media/888081/eGrain-Passport-Pilot-Final-Report.pdf

Personally I am not convinced that it is anything other than a trojan horse which could have unforeseen downsides, such as red tractor, where we were promised a premium, and instead we get no premium, lots of hoops to jump through, countless new rules (which are pointless) and a cost which is going up every year!

Your views on this are important.

 

[DrWazzock]

If it gets rid of the paper passport then fine. if we still have to do the paper passport as well then it's only adding to the work, not saving it.

I do worry a bit about our poor broadband connection. What if you can't get a connection and the lorry is in the yard having arrived at short notice as they often do.

 

[An Gof]

The AHDB, using levy money have trialled an e passport, mainly for the grain industry for now, but sure it can be rolled out over other sectors.

What is everyone's thoughts on this?

Is it going to benefit farmers? or is it another tool that will end up coming back to bite the industry, whilst delivering most benefits to haulage and end users?

Is it actually necessary?

Here's a link to the report, any views very welcome?
http://cereals.ahdb.org.uk/media/888081/eGrain-Passport-Pilot-Final-Report.pdf

Personally I am not convinced that it is anything other than a trojan horse which could have unforeseen downsides, such as red tractor, where we were promised a premium, and instead we get no premium, lots of hoops to jump through, countless new rules (which are pointless) and a cost which is going up every year!

Your views on this are important.

I wonder who will reply to this

 

[DeeGee]

Another item of unwanted bureaucracy to further drive us into the ground. If everyone had the guts, the fortitude and the solidarity (which of course will never come to fruition) to unceremoniously, multilaterally and unequivocally bin the whole concept of farm assurance, our industry would be a damn sight better off.

 

[Chrisw]

I wonder who will reply to this

Open to all. Canvassing views is always a good starting point

 

[marcot]

Who's going to fund it?
I doubt we need 3 guesses....

 

[More to life]

As we funding the rural broadband then why not use it,but can't we wait until it's been installed first.

 

[Chrisw]

Who's going to fund it?
I doubt we need 3 guesses....

The report says nothing about costs to the producers, except a computer and broadband. Merchants will carry the cost, although the savings are supposed to be in the region of about £1m/year.
I would hope that any costs would not be passed back to producers, but we get all costs at the moment!

 

[Adeptandy]

The sooner the better ( as long as the system works )

 

[Chrisw]

If it gets rid of the paper passport then fine. if we still have to do the paper passport as well then it's only adding to the work, not saving it.

I do worry a bit about our poor broadband connection. What if you can't get a connection and the lorry is in the yard having arrived at short notice as they often do.

Good point, don't know yet, but it would replace the paper passport, as far as I can see.

 

[franklin]

All just another load of crap isnt it?

 

[franklin]

Sounds like the sort of thing an IT consultancy, closely working with an accountancy firm, would suggest.

 

[marcot]

The report says nothing about costs to the producers, except a computer and broadband. Merchants will carry the cost, although the savings are supposed to be in the region of about £1m/year.
I would hope that any costs would not be passed back to producers, but we get all costs at the moment!

There will be a significant cost in developing and administering the system. Who is going to control it? Who is going to pay for it? I can't see the Merchants carrying the cost ....sh!t flows downhill and who's at the bottom?

 

[gone up the hill]

The AHDB, using levy money have trialled an e passport, mainly for the grain industry for now, but sure it can be rolled out over other sectors.

What is everyone's thoughts on this?

Is it going to benefit farmers? or is it another tool that will end up coming back to bite the industry, whilst delivering most benefits to haulage and end users?

Is it actually necessary?

Here's a link to the report, any views very welcome?
http://cereals.ahdb.org.uk/media/888081/eGrain-Passport-Pilot-Final-Report.pdf

Personally I am not convinced that it is anything other than a trojan horse which could have unforeseen downsides, such as red tractor, where we were promised a premium, and instead we get no premium, lots of hoops to jump through, countless new rules (which are pointless) and a cost which is going up every year!

Your views on this are important.

Complete waste of time and money, it will just increase costs to farmers like Eid tagging for sheep has done with ZERO benefit for farmers.

They are pushing to do away with cattle passports and replace them with EID ones, personally I think this is a nonsense as the current system works fine.

All very well being electronic but broadband on many farms is hopeless, no good to a farmer and a haulier if they are stood in a yard for an hour waiting for the info to be downloaded ( and that's assuming you can get broadband as some farm yards cannot )

Just another way for the AHDB to waste our money!

 

[Chrisw]

All good comments, which I will raise at the meeting.

 

[uztrac]

All just another load of crap isnt it?

Agreed,but this one is " Eurocrap"

 

[farmer99]

How long bfore they charge for administering the e passport? All these people are just looking to extract cash from us

 

[Steevo]

Nobody has mentioned about feedback on grain quality yet. Would it not benefit if you had the results of your quality specs for the load within hours. I know I'd be happier if I had quality specs for all loads that left the farm. It's more useful to me than knowing the last 3 loads the lorry has carried.

 

[farmerfred86]

Another £ a ton off the bottom line!

 

[colhonk]

Are they going to install free usable broadband for use to use.will be of no benefit to the majority of farmers I would of thought Much easier to fill a bit of paper in than have to traipse into the house,take boots off,explain to the the OH why you are on the computer, when there is better things to do.