Who Should Put Right The RPA's Mistakes?

radar

Member
Mixed Farmer
Checked today just to see if payment was progressing (Yes!) but 2 messages re field changes. First field corner margin now perm. pasture, 2nd area has been deleted on application for ever, as it has trees on it, has now been included as arable area. Do I send RLE 1 in and risk holding payment up, or keep quiet as application is correct?
 
At the very least they should email you every time they change something. At the moment I have to keep logging on and playing a game of spot the difference to keep on top of things. A log on the website with changes and updates would be helpful. I just wish they would stop fiddling when everything was correct beforehand.
 

theboytheboy

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Portsmouth
I didn't get any messages on the bps website untill about a week after the changes had been made. So when you log in it's worth having a good look at your maps etc or checking back a while later as if you have lots of land or complicated maps you could easily miss something from just a casual glance.
 

Steevo

Member
Location
Gloucestershire
Email came through today to advise I had a message in the account. Logged on - they've decided to log parts of a field that have been arable cropped (and claimed as that!) for the past 4 years as permanent grassland. Even the Google Earth map on the BPS land parcel website clearly shows the parcel as a wheat crop....and six months ago when I guess the satellite would have passed over to re-map....the field was planted as maize!
 
Email came through today to advise I had a message in the account. Logged on - they've decided to log parts of a field that have been arable cropped (and claimed as that!) for the past 4 years as permanent grassland. Even the Google Earth map on the BPS land parcel website clearly shows the parcel as a wheat crop....and six months ago when I guess the satellite would have passed over to re-map....the field was planted as maize!

Called NFU Callfirst about this and their advice was that they had this from the RPA:
RPA remote sensing.jpg
 

Wombat

Member
BASIS
Location
East yorks
Hope there remote support inspection report is more helpful than their physical ones. We had a physical inpsection (all fine) and then about 4months later an email and the full report saying no issues found and no reduction will be applied. Claim statement turned up last week and we have a 2% fine for non declaration of areas. :banghead::banghead::banghead:

PS had a remote inspection last year that i had to sort out before i could apply last spring i called them and eventually mapping called me back and we put the corrections right over the phone. The guy on the phone couldn't understand why they had removed loads of PIF stuff and it litterally took him 5mins to fix
 
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Steevo

Member
Location
Gloucestershire
That's what I've done, and emailed them too. Only did it yesterday so no idea if the reprint will be better.

Did as you suggested. The helpful lady on the helpline advised that these changes were not a result of remote sensing, so there was no "inspection report". She suggested I jotted it down in an email to them as all changes/queries must be written. (y)
 
Did as you suggested. The helpful lady on the helpline advised that these changes were not a result of remote sensing, so there was no "inspection report". She suggested I jotted it down in an email to them as all changes/queries must be written. (y)

Ah, sorry, I may have read your original post too quickly and had thought that you had an inspection report. I have 4 sides of A3 in tiny writing with 300 entries on most of which are wrong! When I have emailed the RPA in the past, you do then get a response from a human who can do something about it. Hope your email sorts it.
 

Steevo

Member
Location
Gloucestershire
Ah, sorry, I may have read your original post too quickly and had thought that you had an inspection report. I have 4 sides of A3 in tiny writing with 300 entries on most of which are wrong! When I have emailed the RPA in the past, you do then get a response from a human who can do something about it. Hope your email sorts it.

Ouch! Rather you than me - that sounds a right ordeal!
 

balerman

Member
Location
N Devon
This is a ridiculous situation,last year got all mine sorted as I had a few anomalies,field boundaries in the wrong place etc.Now ive had 5 messages from the RPA saying they have added parcels back,5 small areas that aren't even mine.How hard can this be? once its right,fields don't move and people will always fill out an RLE1 form if there are changes,this is bordering on criminal making a mountain of paperwork for absolutely no reason.
 

Frank-the-Wool

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
East Sussex
I am still getting land changes. At the moment it is about one message a week with the most fields on one message at 8. I now have over 60 field changes.
They are not all my fields though!!

I am not going to do anything for a while as I have yet to receive any money and fear that putting in any RLE1 forms before I have received this years will only complicate the whole thing.

The largest change I have so far is 0.11 and the smallest is 0.01. Most of the changes apart from where the land isn't mine is where the water levels have changed in the dykes as it was summer time and we were in a drought so the field areas have increased. If they do it in the winter when it is flooded then they will be smaller!! I had this argument once before when they made all the fields smaller and fined me for claiming the incorrect area.
At that time we were in a HLS scheme where we had to keep the winter water levels higher for the birds. So I suggested that they had a chat with Natural England and if they wanted me to put the fields back to the original area I would let all the water out again.

After two years they finally gave up taking the money back as I kept appealing.
This will once again be another complete waste of my time and theirs!
 

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