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Who's finding the NHS very hard work??????

Discussion in 'Manflu Corner' started by kill, Feb 22, 2017.

  1. kill

    kill Member

    Location:
    South West
    For the last 4 month's I have been waiting to have X-ray's taken and and an MRI scan due to constant agonizing back and hip pain. It took 3 month's to see a rheumatologist consultant and it will be around another 3 month's to his next appointment even tho his first appointment he prescribed very high dose rate arthritis drugs that put me into A&E with heart attack symptoms for a day. Even when in his words " my right hip is almost certainly knackered" . I have constant burning pain in my right buttock and constant sharp pain in the same area and hardly sleep due to pain. I even have to lift my right leg with my arm into my pickup and need assistance to get my wellies on as I can't lift my leg up off the ground.

    My doctor seams happy to give me drug's but each with their own antidotes as pain killers need laxitives taken with them and anti inflammatory drug's need other drugs taken with them to protect my stomach lining from being shredded.

    I am told not to drive while taking the pain killers or operate machinery, but I am a fecking Agricultural Contractor and a farmer:banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:. I told my doctor that I have spent 28 year's building my business and I need to be working again by the summer as sitting in a tractor for 2 hour's at the moment is a great achievement on a good day:cry:. My doctor seams very reluctant to let me go private to speed things up as I need a referral from them but I'd be happy to pay. I am only 46 and have a family to support and have no health insurances at all so it's vital to get back to work again:unsure:. Is any one else as feed up with the NHS ????
     
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  2. multi power

    multi power Member

    Location:
    pembrokeshire
    My mum had a lot of digestive trouble, doctor just fobbed her off all the time, so she arranged to go private, doctor then gets asked for notes, only then did he take it seriously, maybe the same approach would get things happening,?
     
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  3. idgni

    idgni Member

    Location:
    Armagh
    Sorry to say it, but as i told my Father when his knees gave up,
    Me : " If the gearbox went on the 6920, what would you do?"
    father : " Fix it !! "
    me: " Well it has just went on the main tractor in the house, so fix it !! "

    Yes the NHS is there, Yes you will get it fixed on it, but your different to at least 80% of the population, you need to work to earn, you don't get paid sick pay.
    treat it as an unexpected repair and get it done privately.
     
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  4. kill

    kill Member

    Location:
    South West
    I stated I'd be happy to pay but my doctor is reluctant to give a referral.
    pee's me off slightly as I paid enough tax in January to probably pay for my hip operation twice and I still probably going end paying for it myself.
     
  5. idgni

    idgni Member

    Location:
    Armagh
    just go to a private GP at a private clinic and they'll do it,
    We have these guys here.
    http://3fivetwo.com/
    they have GPs, Consultants the lot, next day appointments and its sorted
     
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  6. bovine

    bovine Member

    Location:
    North
    The doctor cannot refuse to give you a private referral if you ask for one. The only time it gets difficult is if you go off for a scan/x-rays etc privately then decide to go back to the NHS for the operation as its too costly to pay for.

    If the pain is as bad as you say - your long days in the tractor may well be over. Either on the NHS or privately they are reluctant to do joint replacements in younger people who are still in work, as they only have a limited lifespan and a limited number of replacement joints can be fitted. Maybe take a step back into a more managerial role and let the youngsters graft in the cab?
     
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  7. mrs mtx

    mrs mtx Member

    Location:
    Pembrokeshire
    We've had an awful experience with nhs for baby mtx. I get doctors can't know everything but you just need someone to listen and be able to point you in the right direction sometimes. We got told a lot of lies, I got spoken down to quite a lot and made to feel like I wasn't coping. Going private was best thing we ever did :smug:
    Hope you get something sorted
     
  8. mrs mtx

    mrs mtx Member

    Location:
    Pembrokeshire
    We got refused a private referral :facepalm: apparently he didn't need it :rolleyes:
    We also got turned down liquid omeprazole due to costs, apparently a 3 month old baby can take tablets :cautious:
    Formal complaint and changing surgeries helped (y)

    Some private doctors will see you with out a referral but obviously they will be starting investigations from scratch so costs soon mount up
     
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  9. kill

    kill Member

    Location:
    South West
    The bit that I find amusing is the private rheumatologist is the very one I have seen else through the NHS so it may help as long as he doesn't find a new drug I find I have an allergy to.
    Have made a few calls today and hoping to find out a little more tommorow. If what I am suffering was tooth ache it would have been fixed month's ago or if I was an animal my owner would have been jailed for cruelty:eek:.
    I am really glad going private worked so well for baby Mtx and you didn't take no as an answer.
     
  10. milkloss

    milkloss Member

    Location:
    East Sussex
    I don't understand. You want to go private so get a referral. End of. Don't take any rubbish from your doctor he has sworn an oath which I suggest you look up and quote back to him.

    Don't take this the wrong way but you seem like a smart chap so why accept this treatment from your gp?

    I've fought tooth and nail for myself and my family against the NHS and it's very hard work. All I can suggest is push, push, push.
     
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  11. Boysground

    Boysground Member

    Location:
    Wiltshire
    I have to say I have been very impressed with my local NHS recently. Last year I had cataract surgery. I was put on the emergency list because of my work. If my eyesight got any worse I would have lost my driving licence. Everything was completed within 3 months of my diagnosis.

    In the last 2 weeks my daughter has had a knee reconstruction in Southampton hospital. The organisation and care was excellent. Yesterday she had her cast removed and a bracelet fitted. At 3pm the children's orthopaedic unit was only running 10 minutes late. We had the doctors and physio in with us discussing the next stages as her brace was fitted. I cannot praise them enough.

    It must be all down to the luck of the draw as to who gets good service. It shouldn't be like that.

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  12. Goweresque

    Goweresque Member

    Location:
    North Wilts
    The NHS is designed to be like this, because the only thing that decides whether any given person wants to give you good service is their own moral compass. It has zero customer feedback mechanism - if you are treated badly you cannot take your custom elsewhere in the way you would in the private sector, and the employees get paid regardless how well they treat their patients. Any organisation that has no mechanism for the customer to negatively affect the service provider by withdrawal of custom will inevitably be run for the benefit of the employees, and not the customers. Its only human nature - private employees don't do their jobs well because they are saints, they do them well because their continued employment depends on it. Remove that incentive, and standards rapidly slip. The NHS is a long way down this road.
     
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  13. Boysground

    Boysground Member

    Location:
    Wiltshire
    Hadn't thought of it like that but you are right.

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  14. Exfarmer

    Exfarmer Member

    Location:
    Bury St Edmunds
    Sadly Goweresque is absolutely right!
     
  15. Went to Hexham today instead of Carlisle which is much closer to me, they were brilliant.
    I was in, x-rayed and had seen the specialist in an hour.
     
  16. Chasingmytail

    Chasingmytail Member

    Location:
    Newport, SE Wales
    I have paid for a lot of consultations over the course of 5 years to my husbands horror but I would rather see a specialist in the field within the next 2 weeks than be seen 12 months down the line. Even my children I have paid for life is too short to be suffering. Im waiting to see the eye specialist in a few weeks time the wait for NHS is 1 year. No Dr can refuse you to chose a consultant.

    Is it worth considering private insurance if you dont want to risk any future problems?
     
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  17. kill

    kill Member

    Location:
    South West
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    Thanks to my wife's persistence with several phone calls I finally got a cancellation/ short notice MRI scan today(y). Tried to go private in my local hospital but was told originally that it would only save a week or so's wait from my original date at the end of this month.
     
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  18. two-cylinder

    two-cylinder Member

    Location:
    Cambridge
    NHS service always get worse towards end of tax year as they try to balance the books for this year.
     
  19. JCMaloney

    JCMaloney Member

    Location:
    LE3 9EU
    The inside view.............. <dons tin hat>.
    There are far too many middle managers accumulating & manipulating data to make organisations look good.Targets are unrealistic and not balanced to available resources. EG: An A&E has 40 beds, once they are full with patients the flow stops & folk wait. It needs rebuilding from the bottom up not the top down.Strip out lots of unnecessary regulation, particularly in purchasing.Focus on the patient that is poorly not the Saturday night drunk who should get billed.

    I could go on, the solutions are there just nobody is brave enough to grab it by the gonads...... and don`t give it anymore money!! :)
     
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  20. JCMaloney

    JCMaloney Member

    Location:
    LE3 9EU
    If they don`t spend the budget this year it is taken away as a cost improvement next year.................that needs to stop as it encourages the wrong mentality. Living within your budget should not be seen as detrimental.
     

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