Who's in the 10% club?

Paid in full or part as of 31/12/16

  • Yes

    Votes: 65 57.0%
  • No

    Votes: 49 43.0%

  • Total voters
    114
I haven't been paid due to remote inspection. The remote inspection was inconclusive due to cloud cover. Whats the next step....the don't know...yet!
After putting pressure on them for info yesterday they rang back today to say I won't be paid for long while due to remote inspection, asked how it was going was told they hadn't started work on it yet, so asked had I been inspected or was going to be inspected? they could not answer that. Sounds like the remote inspection is being used as a excuse to justify the delay to alter the statistics. Hope the landlord is in a good mood at the end of the month.
 

D14

Member
A large problem is the mapping department. They are extremely under staffed. The helpline people can't talk to the mapping people so until your through mapping you are literally stuck. Our case officer's hands are tied. I meet up with farmer friends every couple of weeks and of the 12 of us last week only 7 had been paid. No way have they paid 90%.
 

Sid

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
South Molton
After putting pressure on them for info yesterday they rang back today to say I won't be paid for long while due to remote inspection, asked how it was going was told they hadn't started work on it yet, so asked had I been inspected or was going to be inspected? they could not answer that. Sounds like the remote inspection is being used as a excuse to justify the delay to alter the statistics. Hope the landlord is in a good mood at the end of the month.
@Guy Smith
 

Bumble Bee

Member
Arable Farmer
Just had an inspector knock on the door with a map of the farm in his hand. I asked him in for a cup of tea but he said he didn't have time as he had 6 other farms to visit. He asked if I was aware that this area has been remotely sensed (I wasn't). There were 2 fields highlighted on his map that he needed to see as they had not come out on the remote sensing photographs. He said that once he had seen them and if everything was okay we should get paid.

The strange thing is that last time they remote sensed one of these fields they got it wrong.
The whole farm was then measured by an inspector with a trundle wheel a few years later. 2 years after that the whole farm was measure again by an inspector with a handheld GPS unit. How many time do we need to measure a field?
 

Sid

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
South Molton
Just had an inspector knock on the door with a map of the farm in his hand. I asked him in for a cup of tea but he said he didn't have time as he had 6 other farms to visit. He asked if I was aware that this area has been remotely sensed (I wasn't). There were 2 fields highlighted on his map that he needed to see as they had not come out on the remote sensing photographs. He said that once he had seen them and if everything was okay we should get paid.

The strange thing is that last time they remote sensed one of these fields they got it wrong.
The whole farm was then measured by an inspector with a trundle wheel a few years later. 2 years after that the whole farm was measure again by an inspector with a handheld GPS unit. How many time do we need to measure a field?
And if your renting the landlord always uses the oldest area as its the biggest!
 

DrWazzock

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Just had an inspector knock on the door with a map of the farm in his hand. I asked him in for a cup of tea but he said he didn't have time as he had 6 other farms to visit. He asked if I was aware that this area has been remotely sensed (I wasn't). There were 2 fields highlighted on his map that he needed to see as they had not come out on the remote sensing photographs. He said that once he had seen them and if everything was okay we should get paid.

The strange thing is that last time they remote sensed one of these fields they got it wrong.
The whole farm was then measured by an inspector with a trundle wheel a few years later. 2 years after that the whole farm was measure again by an inspector with a handheld GPS unit. How many time do we need to measure a field?

Same here. They have done a final and definitive remeasure here about six times over the last 20 years. Every time it's slightly different by some tiny amount. I update my field areas accordingly because it's easier just to agree than argue the toss over 3/8 of FA, but then they do another measure up and it's different again but it's me who is wrong.

They can't seem to grasp the fact that in any measurement there is always a margin of error. It will always be + /- some small amount and you will always get a slightly difference result everytime you measure the same area. They can't seem to understand this, so they are stuck in a loop of perpetual remeasuring. This is what happens when the people in charge aren't very good at mathematics or geometry never mind basic common sense.
 

Mkfm

Member
Same here. They have done a final and definitive remeasure here about six times over the last 20 years. Every time it's slightly different by some tiny amount. I update my field areas accordingly because it's easier just to agree than argue the toss over 3/8 of FA, but then they do another measure up and it's different again but it's me who is wrong.

They can't seem to grasp the fact that in any measurement there is always a margin of error. It will always be + /- some small amount and you will always get a slightly difference result everytime you measure the same area. They can't seem to understand this, so they are stuck in a loop of perpetual remeasuring. This is what happens when the people in charge aren't very good at mathematics or geometry never mind basic common sense.

There going to my mates tomorrow cause of cloud cover, do they think we're hiding something under them there clouds
 

DrWazzock

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
No, and had the visit due to cloud cover :rolleyes:

We had the visit due to cloud cover back in May last year. No report of problems or otherwise was given then or since.

The satellite has also given incorrect areas here in the past due to trees overhanging the edge of the field along a wood side, but they don't seem to worry about that.

But as said above, why keep remeasuring the same areas? It's been done by ordnance survey, various people with measuring wheels, the satellite and a bloke with a hand held GPS gizmo who complained that I'd fenced a tiny triangular corner of the field off and so it should have a new ordnance survey field number or I'd have to take the fence up. This corner was about 10 foot at its longest length and was fenced to allow some tufty grass for the bees and to see what happened if you left land to naturally regenerate. I left it as it was as it amounted to about 0.001 ha.
 
Another week older and still no further along the line, still at claim validation, trying to build the strength to call them again but what's the point if they won't even tell me if they are working on my case.
 

SFI - What % were you taking out of production?

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