Who's joining me?

[Hfd Cattle]

Shows its a farce when they didnt just say you had failed, line manager ought to be sacked for allowing it. Feel sorry for the young lass tbh but taking an inspectors job is like being a traffic warden , you know before you start that abuse is part of the job. Fair play for passing though

But everything that she needed was uploaded on to the RT portal and it was all in correct order by her request ....for her to then admit she had forgotten to look at it after messing us about all day with her timing because she needed food for her nag and the need to get home before dark ....
I had plenty to do as well without hanging around waiting .

 

[Werzle]

Would your opinion and others on here have been the same if the auditor was a middle aged male?

No, but would he have had the same treatment and would he have passed old hfd. Bollocking nice people only ends with them quitting and us being left with the ones who love to make life hard. Remember too that the only reason they are there is because you have paid your membership and so invited them.

 

[Hfd Cattle]

No, but would he have had the same treatment and would he have passed old hfd. Bollocking nice people only ends with them quitting and us being left with the ones who love to make life hard. Remember too that the only reason they are there is because you have paid your membership and so invited them.

Had it have been a bloke I would have been a lot harder !
....its highly likely that a middle aged man would have been more organised and would have done his homework and my nor his time would have been wasted .

 

[Bald n Grumpy]

No, but would he have had the same treatment and would he have passed old hfd. Bollocking nice people only ends with them quitting and us being left with the ones who love to make life hard. Remember too that the only reason they are there is because you have paid your membership and so invited them.

This is 2021, who said being young and female make's you a nice person. Also if you didn't pay your membership and invite them then they wouldn't have a job. And as I suspected " old hfd would have Been harder on a bloke

 

[Werzle]

This is 2021, who said being young and female make's you a nice person. Also if you didn't pay your membership and invite them then they wouldn't have a job. And as I suspected " old hfd would have Been harder on a bloke

Its a small world and i would hazzard a guess she has done audits on our farm and is also a farmers wife.

 

[Bald n Grumpy]

Obviously she must have been having a bad day then.
One of the worst things that can be said when we're having an inspection and being taught to suck eggs is " oh yes I totally understand I used to be a farmer or I'm married to a farmer "

 

[Werzle]

Obviously she must have been having a bad day then.
One of the worst things that can be said when we're having an inspection and being taught to suck eggs is " oh yes I totally understand I used to be a farmer or I'm married to a farmer "

I will take the wife of a farmer over a failed one any day .

 

[S J H]

Not necessarily but I was having no nonsense . .....
I don't mind things being looked at and questioned but when it has no relevance to the welfare or state of my livestock then it's just wasting time .

I forgot to write in my first post, but something that really pee'd me off, was that I'd bought 2 ram lambs from a friend a few weeks ago, with some of the best stock around on a smart place, a real good advertisement for British farming. She asked if they were assured, and I said I don't know. She replied with the scheme advises stock to be bought from assured farms, I ignored her, but WTF has red tractor got to do with buying breeding stock? It was on the advisories aswell.

 

[S J H]

They can shove their sign aswell.

 

[neilo]

I forgot to write in my first post, but something that really pee'd me off, was that I'd bought 2 ram lambs from a friend a few weeks ago, with some of the best stock around on a smart place, a real good advertisement for British farming. She asked if they were assured, and I said I don't know. She replied with the scheme advises stock to be bought from assured farms, I ignored her, but WTF has red tractor got to do with buying breeding stock? It was on the advisories aswell.

I heard of that once, from a long-standing customer, 4 or 5 years ago. It was only a recommendation that had been flagged up by his assessor, but I’ve never heard of it from anyone else since, and none of the assessors I’ve had here have mentioned it.

Personally, I would treat all RT recommendations with the consideration they deserve.

 

[Werzle]

I heard of that once, from a long-standing customer, 4 or 5 years ago. It was only a recommendation that had been flagged up by his assessor, but I’ve never heard of it from anyone else since, and none of the assessors I’ve had here have mentioned it.

Personally, I would treat all RT recommendations with the consideration they deserve.

They have "advised" it for a long time which is fair enough, puts money in other FA farmers pockets which is supposed to be the point!

 

[S J H]

I heard of that once, from a long-standing customer, 4 or 5 years ago. It was only a recommendation that had been flagged up by his assessor, but I’ve never heard of it from anyone else since, and none of the assessors I’ve had here have mentioned it.

Personally, I would treat all RT recommendations with the consideration they deserve.

I did wind me up, I've never heard it before, but there's just no logic.

 

[S J H]

They have "advised" it for a long time which is fair enough, puts money in other FA farmers pockets which is supposed to be the point!

But it's the sort of rule that just ridicules the scheme, it's very short sighted. Would you really by a tup on the basis if they were Farm assured or not?

 

[Werzle]

But it's the sort of rule that just ridicules the scheme, it's very short sighted. Would you really by a tup on the basis if they were Farm assured or not?

No. But its there job to promote FA stock and increase the price of it by advising people to buy it . Folks would soon moan if they paid into FA only to read or hear them advising to buy non FA stock. Tidy looking farm by the way. Tbh i have always said FA is to soft and many farms shouldnt have been allowed to pass so its become a shambles and not the premium price club it was sold to me as. My worry is the end of FA and a free pass for the GOV to flood us with cheap food because we have thrown our standards away .

 

[Grass And Grain]

They can shove their sign aswell. View attachment 1000322View attachment 1000321

Smart farm you've got there. Credit to you.

You can get a place producing poor stock, but FA. Then someone doing a stirling job, and treated like second class because they wouldn't pay the protection money.

 

[S J H]

No. But its there job to promote FA stock and increase the price of it by advising people to buy it . Folks would soon moan if they paid into FA only to read or hear them advising to buy non FA stock. Tidy looking farm by the way. Tbh i have always said FA is to soft and many farms shouldnt have been allowed to pass so its become a shambles and not the premium price club it was sold to me as. My worry is the end of FA and a free pass for the GOV to flood us with cheap food because we have thrown our standards away .

Yes I see what you mean, but I they could just keep quiet.

Thank you, yes it is far too soft, but too strict on needless paperwork that has no benefit to the consumer.

 

[S J H]

Smart farm you've got there. Credit to you.

You can get a place producing poor stock, but FA. Then someone doing a stirling job, and treated like second class because they wouldn't pay the protection money.

Thank you very much, it's getting there now, but still a lot to do.

 

[Werzle]

Thank you very much, it's getting there now, but still a lot to do.

Shame your not a farm assured farmer with a farm like that!

 

[neilo]

But it's the sort of rule that just ridicules the scheme, it's very short sighted. Would you really by a tup on the basis if they were Farm assured or not?

Well, if you buy into the program fully, then yes. You would value the provenance of that tup, having been reared to RT standards, as audited by those assessors described on here.

So no then. I don’t know of anyone that honestly believes that RT assurance means that their stock is any better for it, but plenty that moan and begrudgingly go through the motions for the assessor, while being polite and making cups of tea (well, mostly anyway).

 

[neilo]

My worry is the end of FA and a free pass for the GOV to flood us with cheap food because we have thrown our standards away .

That’s what’s happening anyway. BoJo and his cronies have already been busy ‘negotiating’/begging trade deals to sell UK Ag down the river in their pursuit of cheap food for the masses.

RT being dismissed will make no difference to that, other than reducing costs and stress to the primary producers. It isn’t valued by farmers, buyers or retailers.