Why are second hand rubber tracked crawlers so cheap?

[average farmer]

we had a 65 for a few years and it was a beast! would love to buy it back if I ever came across it. Bought for 13k traded her in for a jd8320 4/5 years later for 10 k

 

[Pilatus]

When I was in Sudan the people we ran farms for had run a large contracting business cleaning ditches and canals as well as land preparation. They ran about 25 Challenger 65's which they ran until they died usually at around 30-35,000 hours they were very clever when it came to keeping them running using truck tyres as the drive wheels and removing all the glass when the air con stopped etc.View attachment 924696View attachment 924697
Still nothing goes on forever.

Off topic.
We’re there many Cat D8/7 and 6 in the same scrap yard, real crawlers.
I may be incorrect but I wonder if the Caterpillar D8/7 and 6 , have cleared more land for agriculture than any other tractors have or ever lightly to in the forseable future, and I am talking world wide.

 

[Farmer_Joe]

1992 CAT Challenger 65B, J762 KFE, tracks 50\% good. Walterscheid Cat 4 hooks on lift arms, 4 spo

Bid Live on Lot 2723 in the York Machinery Sale - October timed online auction Auction from York Auction Centre.

www.i-bidder.com

this seemed reasonable maybe?

 

[glasshouse]

1992 CAT Challenger 65B, J762 KFE, tracks 50\% good. Walterscheid Cat 4 hooks on lift arms, 4 spo

Bid Live on Lot 2723 in the York Machinery Sale - October timed online auction Auction from York Auction Centre.

www.i-bidder.com

this seemed reasonable maybe?

Its the same one

 

[glasshouse]

Better with a ford steiger
They go up in value

 

[Lowland1]

Off topic.
We’re there many Cat D8/7 and 6 in the same scrap yard, real crawlers.
I may be incorrect but I wonder if the Caterpillar D8/7 and 6 , have cleared more land for agriculture than any other tractors have or ever lightly to in the forseable future, and I am talking world wide.

No their day was long gone as the land clearing canal building had been done much earlier.

 

[Lowland1]

Hard to like those 2 pictures, my Dad and Uncle would be weaping.

Would this make you any happier?

 

[daveydiesel1]

Would this make you any happier?View attachment 924828View attachment 924829

Is the company stil in business. What do they run now?

 

[Lowland1]

Is the company stil in business. What do they run now?

The company Dal Agriculture is very much in business the contracting side died as much of the work was for government and the government ran out of money so the Challengers etc were not renewed but ran til they died. The Dal group is massive owning Africa’s largest flour mill Sayga. They are the CAT agents Mercedes, Mitsubishi,
amongst others they diversified into farming and dairy as well as being the sole producer of Coca Cola in Sudan. The boss Osama Latif was at one point the richest black man in Africa but I think there are a lot of dodgy politicians with more money stashed away.

 

[kiwi pom]

I imagine the tracks would be expensive to replace. How long do they last? What else adds to running costs? I used to hear stories about expensive transmission faults in the early days but have these not been worked through or ironed out?

If you get bored one night check out this guys YouTube channel.
Warren works on a lot of the older Cats and knows quite a lot about them.
He's the kind of mechanic that takes on the jobs no one else wants.

 

[Farmer Roy]

In answer to the original question in the first post . . .

are they ?
I hadn’t noticed. And I’ve been looking . . .

No - they are not cheap

at least, not here . . .

 

[DrWazzock]

In answer to the original question in the first post . . .

are they ?
I hadn’t noticed. And I’ve been looking . . .

No - they are not cheap

at least, not here . . .

With 8000 hours on the clock at say £29,000 they are half the price of a decent used loader tractor here.

 

[Farmer Roy]

With 8000 hours on the clock at say £29,000 they are half the price of a decent used loader tractor here.

they don’t hold their value as well as equivalent sized wheel tractors ( due mainly to increased costs / maintenance with track rollers etc ), but certainly not that big a difference

 

[Farmer Roy]

With 8000 hours on the clock at say £29,000 they are half the price of a decent used loader tractor here.

your tractors are cheap . . .

https://www.farmmachinerysales.com.au/items?pg=2&q=(And.(C.Category.Tractors._.SubCategory.Tractor+Crawler.)_.(Or.Make.CASE+IH._.Make.Caterpillar._.Make.Challenger._.Make.John+Deere.))

 

[GeorgeK]

With 8000 hours on the clock at say £29,000 they are half the price of a decent used loader tractor here.

And you'd expect crawlers to spend their hours doing long days in big fields then serviced and back in the shed for 95% of the year. Not thrashed on the roads or stop-start yard work every day which is hard on machines

 

[nick...]

If you get bored one night check out this guys YouTube channel.
Warren works on a lot of the older Cats and knows quite a lot about them.
He's the kind of mechanic that takes on the jobs no one else wants.

Ive been watching these all morning.bit shocked by his John Deere comments but the man knows his stuff
nick...

 

[kiwi pom]

Ive been watching these all morning.bit shocked by his John Deere comments but the man knows his stuff
nick...

He's a clever man, works on just about anything and takes on some big projects.
I think a lot of the breakdowns he goes to are caused by bad operators, they seem pretty wild up there.

 

[nick...]

He's a clever man, works on just about anything and takes on some big projects.
I think a lot of the breakdowns he goes to are caused by bad operators, they seem pretty wild up there.

I can blame you for me watching several hours of his YouTube stuff today.the new Holland driven with handbrake on for 5 miles was interesting
nick...

 

[farmerman]

@nick... Warrens a ace mechanic nothing seems to bother him, no job to big, check out his grader video, bought from auction he’s tasked with fixing the girl up.

 

[Farmer_Joe]

Ive been watching these all morning.bit shocked by his John Deere comments but the man knows his stuff
nick...

what he say about JD?

hes a good guy watched his videos on and off for a few years, some really interesting stuff, hes in California if im not mistaken i could easily be i thought i heard him mention it in a video?

i like his repair truck with his tools in the crane he has on it is well handy for machine work.