Why are some dealers utter scumbags!

Hfd Cattle

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Hereford
It always makes me laugh when certain dealers buying from sales use the words bought from a genuine farm sale ,everything works ,only done 10000hrs etc when they have obviously just moved it from a to b taken a photo and put it on the web with a considerable mark up.
.....and the advert usually starts by saying ......" Here is my .......etc etc " as if it was in their long term ownership !
 

Hfd Cattle

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Hereford
Agreed,if I'm px ing something I always tell the dealer if I think there is a fault.Way I was brought up I suppose.In the end it's always the best way as the dealer knows your honesty and it always helps.
2 yrs ago I put a tractor in for part ex . Took a low price on it due to gearbox problems which were made known to dealer and was the reason for getting rid of .
3 weeks later I had an irate lady on the phone who had bought the tractor at auction and how dare I sell it knowing there was a gearbox problem. She had got my details off the reg docs looked up my number and was fuming . No way would she accept that I had sold the tractor in good faith to a dealer who had then put it in the sale as 'local tractor in good order'
Found out later I had taken £10,000 for tractor but she had paid £17250 for it .........
 

icanshootwell

Member
Location
Ross-on-wye
Had a bit of new kit off Western Farm (Knighton) recently ,great to deal with ....had nothing go wrong so haven't tried the 'aftersales' yet .
As in earlier post Morris Corfield (Hereford) very good and Frank Sutton (Raglan ) very good and competitive on JD parts .
Parts guy at Frank's is good
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Is that the chap that,s been there a long time.
 

Dave W

Member
Location
chesterfield
2 yrs ago I put a tractor in for part ex . Took a low price on it due to gearbox problems which were made known to dealer and was the reason for getting rid of .
3 weeks later I had an irate lady on the phone who had bought the tractor at auction and how dare I sell it knowing there was a gearbox problem. She had got my details off the reg docs looked up my number and was fuming . No way would she accept that I had sold the tractor in good faith to a dealer who had then put it in the sale as 'local tractor in good order'
Found out later I had taken £10,000 for tractor but she had paid £17250 for it .........
So she bought a tractor out of an auction and it wasn't perfect. Well who'd have thought 🤣🤣
Been some horrendous stuff dumped in auctions this summer where viewing has been difficult
 

7610 super q

Never Forgotten
Honorary Member
The joys of second hand gear. The last tractor I bought from a " reputable " dealer arrived with the PTO not working. T'other side of the country, didn't view it. PTO cover screwed on tight, so would have needed a stilsons to undo it to check. Do folks normally take a full toolkit with them when viewing a tractor anyway ? With the benefit of hindsight, the warning signs were there.......PTO cover on the tractor, yet guard and other bits and pieces missing..... :unsure: So, previous owner was a sneaky coooont hiding problems. Dealer should have checked it over, but didn't, I should have viewed the tractor in person. Blame lies with 3 different people. Cost £1200 to sort out, so not the end of the world. Lesson learnt.
 

Henarar

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Somerset
It always makes me laugh when certain dealers buying from sales use the words bought from a genuine farm sale ,everything works ,only done 10000hrs etc when they have obviously just moved it from a to b taken a photo and put it on the web with a considerable mark up.
In what way have they lied ? as long as everything works
and if they make a considerable mark up then good on them anyone can go to a sale and bid you try it and one day you will buy a pup and the mark up on everything else you bought will go on sorting it or you take the loss and scrap it
any second hand machinery dealer that tells you they have never bought anything that wasn't much cop and they have had to make a loss is either
A feck sight better at the job than I was
Not bought much
Lying
 

Dave W

Member
Location
chesterfield
In what way have they lied ? as long as everything works
and if they make a considerable mark up then good on them anyone can go to a sale and bid you try it and one day you will buy a pup and the mark up on everything else you bought will go on sorting it or you take the loss and scrap it
any second hand machinery dealer that tells you they have never bought anything that wasn't much cop and they have had to make a loss is either
A feck sight better at the job than I was
Not bought much
Lying
Me 🙋‍♂️🙋‍♂️
ive bought some total shite I've made a loss on!!!!
 

Campbell

Member
Location
Herefordshire
Another one "Always been stored inside when not in use "when they've only bought
it last week.
Cough cough .....no comment
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Henarar

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Somerset
Me 🙋‍♂️🙋‍♂️
ive bought some total shite I've made a loss on!!!!
yep pisses you off when you get it home, try it, realise its fecked, price up fixing it, realise its not worth fixing, chuck it in the scrap,
spose you could always phone up the auction you got it from and moan but why waste a phone call when the second word will be off ?
 

8100

Member
Location
South Cheshire
True story but the other way around. A lad i know bought a engine for his Capri off a local scrap yard it was sold as a good un which it was .He thought he would be clever and take the knackered one back and try and get his money back. The lads at the scrap yard said sure come in the office we will sort it out...Yes he came back out of the office with a nose like a goats foot :D:ROFLMAO:
 

Wellytrack

Member
True story but the other way around. A lad i know bought a engine for his Capri off a local scrap yard it was sold as a good un which it was .He thought he would be clever and take the knackered one back and try and get his money back. The lads at the scrap yard said sure come in the office we will sort it out...Yes he came back out of the office with a nose like a goats foot :D:ROFLMAO:

Well deserved too.

Why there is no return on most electronic items from breakers now, the guts are pulled out of the good thing and the rubbish shoved back in the case of whatever it was that came.
 

Henarar

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Somerset
There are some good ones about.
bought my first loading shovel [first anything] a MF50H of Ken barber up top the forest of dean, went to look at it but couldn't really try it as there were so many machines in his yard you couldn't move it, done a deal about 3K he said he would send it down when it got here after the lorry was gone I tried it out the lane 1st and 2nd gear was ok but put it in third and it jammed up, it was going in two gears at the same time.
I thought that was that cos there had been no mention of warranty but I rang him up and he said he would send someone local to have a look, chap came out but couldn't do anything it was a gearbox out job.
A few days later he sent a couple chaps all the way down here with a re-con box and they worked all day in the p1ss1ng down rain in our yard to fit the new box, so he didn't make much out of that old machine did he.
Been back to him a few times since both for myself and taking other people to see stuff and he was always good, once we were looking at a 2K slew and he left someone looking at a big loader that must have been 30k to come and talk to me.
Not been up there for a few years now though, anyone know if he is still going ?
 
Ahhh......blast from the past the farm used to deal with him 30/40 odd years ago for 3 if not 4 MF diggers and spares, as you say as i remember fanstastic service couldn't do enough to help. Deal with Kelllands now who are also very very good
 

Werzle

Member
Location
Midlands
There are some good ones about.
bought my first loading shovel [first anything] a MF50H of Ken barber up top the forest of dean, went to look at it but couldn't really try it as there were so many machines in his yard you couldn't move it, done a deal about 3K he said he would send it down when it got here after the lorry was gone I tried it out the lane 1st and 2nd gear was ok but put it in third and it jammed up, it was going in two gears at the same time.
I thought that was that cos there had been no mention of warranty but I rang him up and he said he would send someone local to have a look, chap came out but couldn't do anything it was a gearbox out job.
A few days later he sent a couple chaps all the way down here with a re-con box and they worked all day in the p1ss1ng down rain in our yard to fit the new box, so he didn't make much out of that old machine did he.
Been back to him a few times since both for myself and taking other people to see stuff and he was always good, once we were looking at a 2K slew and he left someone looking at a big loader that must have been 30k to come and talk to me.
Not been up there for a few years now though, anyone know if he is still going ?
Pretty sure he was on the farming program loading a digger bought from ali hunter blair nr ross on wye, one of the farmers the program was following. Barbers kit is abit cheap n cheerfull, buys alot of trade in's firm cant shift i believe and/or insurance right off's
 

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