Bossfarmer
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- Location
- between Perth and Inverness
If they change it to 20k a farm thats exactly wat ill need to do
Why Devon farmers will soon be extinct.
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Tarw Coch
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- Location
- Bottom of Wats Dyke
So food or at least ex farm price isn't high enough, either lower your costs which may well mean producing less or don't produce at all, if we're all in the same boat they will have to find somewhere cheap to import a lot of food from or the price will have to rise. If you're getting 20 grand and have the ability to feed your family you're in a good place to weather the storm.
- Location
- Owaka, New Zealand
But how do you keep expanding with only 20k?
Or more to the point, how do you do it without any help
So a "proper" farmer needs money for new toys ? is that the difference ?
Or sell your toys perhaps ?
The 1st bit will be easier ,the 2nd harder-bit more to think aboutBut how do you keep expanding with only 20k?
Or more to the point, how do you do it without any help
- Location
- Owaka, New Zealand
Thats only an acre a year... hardly worth getting out of bed for that
£700,000k sounds more motivational.
Yes but you could have chickens and do it that way with some good advice but I guess thats not "proper "farming so you wouldnt want that at all how about veg ?Thats only an acre a year... hardly worth getting out of bed for that
£700,000k sounds more motivational.
- Location
- Owaka, New Zealand
Wasn't there a lettuce crisis?
Avocados, citrus, chickpeas
I'm sure with enough sub you could grow oranges where you live.
Get into it mate, flood the market!
Seriously though, I must be the only person I know who isn't fussed on chicken, I make up for it by being addicted to eggs...
How poultry farming isn't taken seriously, but sheep are, is anyone's guess.
I know more people who buy chicken than lamb, in this day and age.
Hang on a min- remember this is the uk here I want to be a proper farmer you knowWasn't there a lettuce crisis?
Avocados, citrus, chickpeas
I'm sure with enough sub you could grow oranges where you live.
Get into it mate, flood the market!
Seriously though, I must be the only person I know who isn't fussed on chicken, I make up for it by being addicted to eggs...
How poultry farming isn't taken seriously, but sheep are, is anyone's guess.
I know more people who buy chicken than lamb, in this day and age.
glasshouse
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- Location
- lothians
£100k would get you all the kit you need including a good welder
- Location
- Owaka, New Zealand
And it's going to be stuck in 1933 like the US. At least China are using the funding for progress, joys of the widely slated communist policy.
If you were in the US, you'd be lucky to get £5k a year, and yet it's still as damaging to land values etc. They readily admit it, not try and make excuses that it isn't happening/hasn't happened.
Most of their mega farms receiving the huge sub packages have senators and members of congress somewhere on their board of directors- coincidence maybe- I think not.
That's why I sit back and thank my lucky stars we kicked the habit when we did.
Google "the Cairns Group" for info
(Hope I haven't caused any offence by my posts, these are all personal opinions based on 15 years of research, but purely my own opinion)
be bloody easy to expand with 20k, expand the bank balance that is or invest somewhere else, I wouldn't buy land with my 20k not at the price it is at the moment well not to grow crops that wouldn't pay if the land was free anywayBut how do you keep expanding with only 20k?
Or more to the point, how do you do it without any help
Hilly
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- Location
- Scottish Borders.
I tend to agree however as long as they sell like hot cakes like they are they aint ever going to reduce in price.
- Location
- Owaka, New Zealand
Such tight margins everywhere. Very difficult to be diverse and keep a handle on costs. Not saying anything new though am I.
As you often comment, and don't always get great ratings, it's the farmers paying the prices that keep them up. It's not the subsidy doing the spending, its just providing the money to spend with.
It is slightly scary to watch all that spending happening, knowing that it could vanish following a cunning political move to appease the urban voter etc. But so long as it's there it's there.
Hilly
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- Location
- Scottish Borders.
If its there spend it if needed then when its not there you dont need to spend it, if you try to save in business the tax man lurks.
Hilly
Member
- Location
- Scottish Borders.
Just spend on need not want.
- Location
- Owaka, New Zealand
What are your business tax rates like, if you don't mind.
I think your lending rates are just a bit higher than here at the moment, our business/corporate tax is 33%
Which is why my trading company holds so many shares in things, I'm done paying tax!! Fortunately no CGT here yet, but I'm not banking on it continuing as is.
FonterraFarmer
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- Location
- Waikato, New Zealand
Not overly fussed on chicken here too, but eggs are like deer, can eat them 3 times a day!Wasn't there a lettuce crisis?
Avocados, citrus, chickpeas
I'm sure with enough sub you could grow oranges where you live.
Get into it mate, flood the market!
Seriously though, I must be the only person I know who isn't fussed on chicken, I make up for it by being addicted to eggs...
How poultry farming isn't taken seriously, but sheep are, is anyone's guess.
I know more people who buy chicken than lamb, in this day and age.
Don't pay much tax but I am not frightened to, better to pay a bit of tax and have the money you pay it on to do what you like with rather than spend it on a load of over priced junk that will land you in debt and cost you more than you saved in the first place