Why do so many people use castration pliers the wrong way around

[Old Tip]

They’ve mostly never been shown how to do it properly.
I know folks who'll have rung tens and
possibly hundreds of thousands of lambs and slid the ring off with their second hand, and when they see you do it the other way they think it'd amazing

We get vet students for lambing and they are taught to do it the wrong way round, they soon change to the more productive method

 

[Zippy768]

Only thing I reckon you need to worry about, is the ability to count to 2! Worth checking people can do that ime

 

[Bald n Grumpy]

never heard that there is a wrong way to use it, will try it next lambing.
Just had a look on YouTube and they're all doing it wrong

 

[Filthyfarmer]

Do they think we won’t be allowed to castrate lambs? Or that it will be a vet job

I'm not sure where her info came from. She is a very good Farm vet though and one that I would take note of.
Not necessary a Vet job, but that before to many years rubber rings would be banned or at least used alongside a local anesthetic.

 

[primmiemoo]

I'm not sure where her info came from. She is a very good Farm vet though and one that I would take note of.
Not necessary a Vet job, but that before to many years rubber rings would be banned or at least used alongside a local anesthetic.

Is that to do with the numbnuts device?

 

[Al R]

never heard that there is a wrong way to use it, will try it next lambing.
Just had a look on YouTube and they're all doing it wrong

I know someone that was doing it from watching YouTube videos, all the wrong way and was taking them circa 10 minutes to do a pair of balls I sent them a video of me doing one my way and they asked if I could do it in slow motion

 

[Bald n Grumpy]

I know someone that was doing it from watching YouTube videos, all the wrong way and was taking them circa 10 minutes to do a pair of balls I sent them a video of me doing one my way and they asked if I could do it in slow motion

Don't think using the pliers the wrong way will add 9 1/2 minutes to the job
Most people who take a long time or can't do it mess about with the balls before they get near with the ring
I always put the ring over then check for 2 then remove pliers, if you check first the little b****rs will hide them

 

[jamesy]

Seems to be common

 

[betweenthelines]

What's to say the OP's way is "right"

I'd say his way means the ring is too far away from the lamb's belly

 

[Bojangles]

It seems that

What's to say the OP's way is "right"

I'd say his way means the ring is too far away from the lamb's belly

its actually closer

 

[CopperBeech]

Is it actually that much quicker ? I’m not sure if two farms both did it opposite ways around that the farmer going points away would find himself work lots of spare time due to it

 

[betweenthelines]

It seems that

its actually closer

But you have to leave room to get the pliers off?

 

[Bojangles]

But you have to leave room to get the pliers off?

No they come off when you flick them

 

[Bojangles]

I should also add that the way I use them is not MY way. It’s the way they were designed to work. It’s why they are curved the way they are so the metal curves are against the skin and can be pushed against it so the testicles move in to the scrotum. Handles downward then when you flick them the curves of the pliers aren’t abrasive when they are flicked

 

[No wot]

So what's the right way to knock a nail in , seeing as none of us have anything better to do this morning

 

[Bojangles]

So what's the right way to knock a nail in , seeing as none of us have anything better to do this morning

Probably hit it with the flat side of the hammer rather than the claw side.
Obviously I’m offending folk with my comment about using things the way they are designed saving time and reducing stress on lambs. Will leave it there I think

 

[Nithsdale]

Best go tell Bristol they don't know how to use them...

 

[beardface]

I'm not sure where her info came from. She is a very good Farm vet though and one that I would take note of.
Not necessary a Vet job, but that before to many years rubber rings would be banned or at least used alongside a local anesthetic.

Google numnuts. Already a product that does this. Becoming more popular in ozzy due to consumer demand for high welfare procedures. Definitely think that when the UK trials have concluded it will become the preferred option. Just not sure it would work well without a cradle.

 

[Nithsdale]

Google numnuts. Already a product that does this. Becoming more popular in ozzy due to consumer demand for high welfare procedures. Definitely think that when the UK trials have concluded it will become the preferred option. Just not sure it would work well without a cradle.

Aye, I'm not sure how good numbnuts works if you're doing lambs soon after birth holding them between your legs.


They put the rings on the wrong way too... apparently

 

[Al R]

Is that to do with the numbnuts device?

I don’t castrate many these days ( few hundred orobably) but I’d stop altogether if I had to use the numb nuts device…
Some lambs will never do with balls on and just go triangular and be small runts, these are the ones that need castrating as a must.