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oh dear !
is the earth flat as well and I bet we never actually landed on the moon either !
Are there many Dinosaurs left living on your farm?
oh dear !
is the earth flat as well and I bet we never actually landed on the moon either !
Are there many Dinosaurs left living on your farm?
Is this room 101 or something ..........
nope - think a bit comet thingy did for them a while back
You implied I needed to live in the uk to find out a Eastern European opinion which I find totally bizarre. Actually as we both write nonsense on here, Mrs Cz is chatting to friends in Praha and you are either in Stafford or you said you may be in Brussels, so who is best placed to get the on the ground opinion (how is your polish language by the way?)
It's often cheaper, people generally buy what's cheap.They dont have a reason not to buy it
The NFU and the like need to give them a reason . It's not prices I expect the price is the same as british . It's all on the same shelf they just grab what they see first
Clever/prolonged adverts on the tv during the 60's/70's/80's which always showedBacon and Chicken
Surly we would be better feeding our own grain and sending the muck back to the soil
Is it just Superstores or are there other reasons
Thanks Sam.And mighty good bacon it is too, highly recommend
Impossible to like, but totally the truth!Back to the decrease in pig numbers.....(which is why we import bacon)
We had a unilateral welfare law imposed banning sow stalls from 1999, many pig farmers couldn't invest in replacement and so went out.
Europe eventually agreed to a partial ban on stalls from 2013 which many have yet to fully implement, sow stalls are cheap and efficient as well as a horrible place to keep a pregnant sow.
Britain had a breakdown in pig disease in 2000 (swine fever iirc) which imposed huge movement restrictions, market collapsed as exports were banned by other countries, more pig farmers packed it in.
Same with foot and mouth.
Now a large percentage of 'British Bacon (and pork) is produced here by a company wholly owned by the Danes as they think that it is more profitable to produce pigs in Britain than produce in Denmark and export.
Yes , that's why it can say ". Up to 50% added water" on the packaging!A lot of supermarket bacon is water injected or it sure seems like that!
Don,t you like putting super market bacon under the grill and seeing it disappear before your eyes.Can the Danish produce it cheaper than UK?
One thing I will say....supermarkets have ruined bacon! Never again will I buy it from anywhere other than a local butcher.
Maybe, unintended consequences can leave a sour taste though, when making well intentioned sweeping social change.oh i did - as I say I don't think we should import / export cereals either unless local / domestic is not available
we are screwing up this planet rather nicely with this nonsense
Maybe it would be a good lesson in producing goods / food etc for available markets vs just producing regardless
simple way to do this is put Huge tax on fuel for shipping and airfreight etc
Maybe, unintended consequences can leave a sour taste though, when making well intentioned sweeping social change.oh i did - as I say I don't think we should import / export cereals either unless local / domestic is not available
we are screwing up this planet rather nicely with this nonsense
Maybe it would be a good lesson in producing goods / food etc for available markets vs just producing regardless
simple way to do this is put Huge tax on fuel for shipping and airfreight etc
Maybe, unintended consequences can leave a sour taste though, when making well intentioned sweeping social change.oh i did - as I say I don't think we should import / export cereals either unless local / domestic is not available
we are screwing up this planet rather nicely with this nonsense
Maybe it would be a good lesson in producing goods / food etc for available markets vs just producing regardless
simple way to do this is put Huge tax on fuel for shipping and airfreight etc
jeez Buddah what the fucck are you on ?? A mid life crisis ? Sorry im only pulling your leg you of course correct but try convincing joe public , Maybe start with the sun holidays .If we value cheap food and white goods over the value of our environment and the future of the planet we are in a LOT of trouble
This has to change and if that means things get expensive then so be it
I would argue EVERYTHING is far too cheap now, maybe if everything cost more we would all consider much more carefully what we ACTUALLY need ?
Supermarket bacon is a totally different product to proper drycured bacon . I never eat the watery shite in packets i buy my back rashers with the rind on at the local butchers same as all my meat . If my precious back rashers doubled in price i would still buy them and wouldnt take the supermarket stuff if i got them for nothing . Same with sausages proper sausages back rashers and black pudding . Sunday morning special sets you up for the week !! You are what you eat do you really want to be cheap ??Don,t you like putting super market bacon under the grill and seeing it disappear before your eyes.
Bacon and Chicken
Surly we would be better feeding our own grain and sending the muck back to the soil
Is it just Superstores or are there other reasons
Yes i remember the pig crisis during the ninties, politicans seem to forget about the wefare of producers when the meddle with their livelihoods .The reason we import so much bacon is because Michael Joplin, a conservative mp got a bill through parliament to ban the use of stalls and tethers to house dry sows in the mid 90’s. Before this there was just shy of 1 million breeding sows in the uk which made us nearly 90% self sufficient in pork products. Just before the legislation was due to come into effect, the Japanese economic crisis happened and the global price of pork crashed, many pig producers were operating on prices of about 60% of the cost of production for an extended period of time because global pig cycles converged to amplify down pressure on price.
Faced with the huge capital cost of complying with the impending legislation and the collapse in price, many smaller and some large high profile producers left the industry and the sow herd dropped to about 500,000 in the space of around 2 years.
If you want someone to blame about the lack of uk pork and bacon blame the Tories, they left the industry high and dry. I have no doubt that in 20 years time we will be telling a similar story about British beef and lamb as a result of this Tory government and Brexit.