Why doesn’t the NFU press office take part onTFF?

BrianV

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Bless you. Jeremy has you in his enthral, like he has most on this forum. The gullible will be gullible I guess. Love Island is another show for the gullible.
Well you could compare it with Adam Hanson on Countryfile with a never ending supply of gleaming new machinery & decide which gives a better reflection of the average UK farm, trying to get the publics understanding whilst showing off your latest £100,000 bit of kit doesn't help one iota!
 

Vader

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Why does everybody care so much ?? The general public doesn’t give a f**k about there food or where it comes from… maybe a small percentage does but that percentage already know…. The general public want food as cheap and easily accessible as possible and they don’t don’t care how they get it no amount of press will ever change that
So why does the nfu push rt then....?
 

JP1

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That is exactly why!👍

Why doesn't Borris come on to get shredded too?

People on here can criticise the NFU or Red Tractor, but not many are offering a group visit around their farm or to show their accounts oe record keeping ti show how good they are at their job.

I'm not a huge NFU or Red Tractor fan, but I can understand why they'd avoid an unprofessional platform where people can say you're ugly from behind a mask.
I do have some sympathy with this. Kate Morgan has put her head above the parapet and spoken about the pig crisis and on behalf of the NPA and sadly a few on here took that all the wrong way and question her business (built from nothing, second generation and I repeat again at the forefront of welfare friendly production)
 

john 650

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I think Jeremy Clarkson has probably done more good for British farming in one year than NFU, AHDB and RT have done in the last 20.

Not that I'm knocking all the behind the scenes things that these organisations do that is unseen.
Do you mean the Jeremy Clarkson who had the NFU on his show, and was advised by them? The Same Jeremy Clarkson who was at the NFU's press event last week?
Bless you. Jeremy has you in his enthral, like he has most on this forum. The gullible will be gullible I guess. Love Island is another show for the gullible.
Clarkson has his bubble of fans- who are also likely to be low hanging fruit from a farming perspective. Reality is, his popularity was on the wane long before the BBC sacked him, and the audience for Clarkson's farm is going to be fairly niche. Farmers love him. Speaking to friends outside of the ag bubble, his show has pretty much gone un noticed...
 

Cowabunga

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Do you mean the Jeremy Clarkson who had the NFU on his show, and was advised by them? The Same Jeremy Clarkson who was at the NFU's press event last week?

Clarkson has his bubble of fans- who are also likely to be low hanging fruit from a farming perspective. Reality is, his popularity was on the wane long before the BBC sacked him, and the audience for Clarkson's farm is going to be fairly niche. Farmers love him. Speaking to friends outside of the ag bubble, his show has pretty much gone un noticed...
It is actually one of, if not 'the' most successful and watched shows Amazon has ever produced.
 

BrianV

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Do you mean the Jeremy Clarkson who had the NFU on his show, and was advised by them? The Same Jeremy Clarkson who was at the NFU's press event last week?

Clarkson has his bubble of fans- who are also likely to be low hanging fruit from a farming perspective. Reality is, his popularity was on the wane long before the BBC sacked him, and the audience for Clarkson's farm is going to be fairly niche. Farmers love him. Speaking to friends outside of the ag bubble, his show has pretty much gone un noticed...
I think you must have a fairly small group of friends outside agriculture as his show knocks Countryfile into a cocked hat!
 

dairyrow

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I think they could put discussion forums on the latest reforms behind a members page. If people break a strict set of rules or continue with the same line of questioning then just put they pulled them out to calm down. I do worry that alot of them are really out of touch and unaccountable. Even our arla area have a wattsapp group (must join it). Even have live sessions on zoom. But I don't really like them and send the talk out before hand just so it's questions rather than sit there listening to it wasting the minutes
 
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Be difficult for an individual to come on here saying that they "speak" on behalf of the NFU as they would have to put forward the "agreed" view on any subject.

For example, couldn't comment on tenancy issues as some NFU members are Landlords as well, have to keep out of the milk price debate as some members are on aligned contracts- as for the whole organic/conventional/sustainable debate!!

Then there's topics that could have legal implications. A misguided post could be twisted in "NFU have said that I am perfectly within my rights to................."

Better for any organisation to steer clear of internet debates inmho.
 

john 650

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I think you must have a fairly small group of friends outside agriculture as his show knocks Countryfile into a cocked hat!
A fairly broad spectrum- mainly Manchester/London based from who I've spoken to. Wouldn't be interested in watching Countryfile either.

Both Clarkson and CF are debated ad nauseum in the ag/rural echo chamber. Both considered irrelevant outside of it. (albeit CF does still get decent viewing figures- mainly middle class/rural. CF does also declare viewing figures, unlike Amazon shows)
Amazon don't publish viewing figs, but do say it's been more popular than the grand tour- which they've axed as a format pretty much

I'd say that Whitehouse and Mortimer gone fishing is the most popular "rural" show at the moment.
 
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Cowabunga

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john 650

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There's this

This, which may be a bit biassed.


Ah- so Jeremy Clarkson says it's the best show....... in the World!


And the Express link says it "went straight to number one, and stayed in top ten for weeks" Hardly Mad Men.

It also includes this review from outside the Ag/Top gear bubble-

“For every Clarkson sucking up money, resources, time and publicity, there are other, newer, brighter, more entertaining, more valuable things not getting made.”


So, it's not known how popular it is- but Amazon for a while said there would be no second series.

And on that bombshell....

(Caveat- I enjoyed it- but then I would do...)
 

BrianV

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A fairly broad spectrum- mainly Manchester/London based from who I've spoken to. Wouldn't be interested in watching Countryfile either.

Both Clarkson and CF are debated ad nauseum in the ag/rural echo chamber. Both considered irrelevant outside of it. (albeit CF does still get decent viewing figures- mainly middle class/rural. CF does also declare viewing figures, unlike Amazon shows)
Amazon don't publish viewing figs, but do say it's been more popular than the grand tour- which they've axed as a format pretty much

I'd say that Whitehouse and Mortimer gone fishing is the most popular "rural" show at the moment.
Judging by the numbers turning up to didly squat I have a feeling you could be very much mistaken, I can't see country folk turning up for a few potatoes can you?
 

john 650

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Judging by the numbers turning up to didly squat I have a feeling you could be very much mistaken, I can't see country folk turning up for a few potatoes can you?
There's a few people I'm friends with on Facebook who've been- all farmers. All complained about the prices, but posted pics of their kids posing with JC/Kaleb etc.

There's literally a couple of thousand every weekend. Bit like a Newport County game....

A uni pal, who's a solicitor commuting to London, and lives nearby has no idea what the fuss is about.
 

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