WHY DONT CHILDREN GET MEALS AT HALF TERM ?

honeyend

Member
Last week the potato harvesters left one of the fields . On the ground were loads of potatoes that were spilled over the side of the trailer and about half an acre that they couldn't harvest cos it was too wet. Field was next to the village . A makeshift sign was put up ...Free dig your own potatoes before they are ploughed up ... also you can help yourself to apples out of the adjacent orchard ........
To my knowledge no-one went and got any.
I just wonder how many off the estate was at the food bank on the following Sat .
The answer is the makeshift sign. Who actually knew it was not a wind up and how many people actually saw it. If you posted it on the local FB page or contacted the local church you would have perhaps had a better response.
Our village has a community orchard, and the apples get picked. People also put, books, toys, apples in the bus shelter outside the village hall. Every one knows its OK to take them and drop things off.
 

DeeGee

Member
Location
North East Wales
You are wrong there. It wasnt socialist policies.
Thatcher destroyed british industry with her fixation on a strong pound with high interest rates in the eighties.
This also fitted her destruction of union power agenda , no industry= no unions.
Scottish notth sea oil gave her the finances to pay Off the miners and the dole for 3 million plus From then on.
Benefits offices deliberately got men onto disability rather than dole to disguise the real jobless total of probably 5 million.
Selling off the council housing was a masterstroke to divide and rule and councidentally return housing To the private sector to usher back in the era pf landlordism ie runaway rents and housing bubbles

Well said, and largely very true. But the truth is rarely told by the Tory media is it?
 

Muck Spreader

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Limousin
After yesterday’s vote from the government against providing free meals for children over half term, we have decided that we will give a meal of sausage, chips and beans to any of the local children who come for either breakfast or lunch throughout the half term holiday. During this tough time our loyal customers have supported us and so we want to give back to the community by supporting our local children. We are living in a very hard time and right now finances can be limited, so please don’t feel any shame about accepting help and support. We as a local business and a community want to help. This offer is for our local children only, so unfortunately this offer won’t be available for anybody who is visiting on their holidays. This is so we can definitely be supporting our local community who have supported us so much before, during and after lockdown. We want to do our bit as a local business to help where we can. Please share this post so we can reach those who will benefit from this offer! Thank you so much, Frank and the Rooster team.
This is "The Rooster Dinner" at Penrith, Cumbria

Sounds a great idea, good for you. I was just thinking if the same happened here in France the farming unions and young farmers would be quick mobilise in order to capitalise on public good will in this situation. They would be out supplying produce arranging with caterers, restaurants etc to supply meals to local schools.
 

Pennine Ploughing

Member
Mixed Farmer
Sounds a great idea, good for you. I was just thinking if the same happened here in France the farming unions and young farmers would be quick mobilise in order to capitalise on public good will in this situation. They would be out supplying produce arranging with caterers, restaurants etc to supply meals to local schools.
I have no connection with the Rooster, I was only posting it as to show someone local is helping out the less fortunate local kids over the holidays, there will be kids that are hungry, yet frightened to ask for food from their parents for whatever reason
 

PSQ

Member
Arable Farmer
But food prices won't rise if you get rid of subsidies, it just sucks in more imported food, unless you put high tariff wall up. And how would high prices in the shops solve this problem?
Subsidies were designed to break the price link between supply and demand and to guarantee oversupply after 15 years of rationing and hardship. Removing subsidies from UK Ag will massively reduce supply and tip uk prices into permanent ’import parity’. Fast forward to any form of shortage in our supplying countries and the UK will be held hostage to world prices at import parity, it doesn’t take much imagination to realise food prices will skyrocket and farmers will be accused of ‘profiteering’ by the same arseholes who demanded subsidies be removed 🤦‍♂️
If families are struggling to feed themselves now with abundant cheap food, then how will they manage the rollercoaster of unrestrained price inflation?

We need a robust and compassionate welfare state for those who genuinely need help; the Left seeking to weaponise Marcus Rashfords demand for local authorities to feed children out of school time is an appeal to the public’s emotion, to make the Tories look like heartless barstewards despite the £20 COVID top up to Universal Credit. Mission accomplished.
 
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Bald Rick

Moderator
Livestock Farmer
Location
Anglesey
This unfortunately. Most have iphones, sky tv and smoke!!! Another major problem we have in this country is that the parents have no idea how to shop let alone prepare and cook. They've been bought up on ready and fast food from the corner shop and carry on with this extortionately expensive way of eating feeding children on packs of crisps, pizzas, ready meals etc when a bag of sbuds can be got for £6 etc and supermarkets are always marking things down!!! A lot do but too many don't / can't or won't prepare and cook!

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bluebell

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of course there are genuine people hard up, cant feed their children? but the whole wellfare state just cant keep going on as it is ? fact how can it be right that many find it not worth while working ? i know personally and i bet everyone else on here no people who milk the wellfare state , milk the system, everyone in a society should have to make a contribution however little to it? many take it, same could be said at the other end, the cruel fact of life the other end is the more you earn the less you pay in tax , in other words the super rich pay no tax ? why do you think they have residents all over the world ? its the thousands and thousands of small businesses caught in the middle not big enough to take advantage of the tax loopholes that are paying the price, no wonder the black economy is booming? tax loopholes legal ones for the likes of amazon that have done so so well have got to be shut down made to pay more tax, level playing field ? sounds so simple why isnt it ?
 

7610 super q

Never Forgotten
Honorary Member
Sorry, but what relevance has SFP to this thread ?
For a start we don't all get a SFP,
Second it's to buffer farmers from 1970's produce prices,
Third it's pegged at 1990's levels anyway.

Roll on 2022 in Wales when subs end altogether. Then the trolls on here will have to find something else to troll about.

It's difficult to see how food could be any more affordable in this country, even allowing for supermarket profiteering. Whilst there are always exceptional circumstances, 99.99999% of folks in this country have no excuse for not being able to afford food.
 
if people cant be responsible for their children well sign them over to the state at birth and forego any sort of govt handouts ?

If people can't be responsible for themselves why not get a real job and forego government handouts such as BPS scheme, the other plethora of farm schemes and grants, rebated fuel and the avoidance of IHT? Damn those pesky socialists wanting others to pay for their lifestyle.
 

Still Farming

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
South Wales UK
Why on earth do you think they may need a 'baby sitting' service. Most jobs start at nine, some schools start at 9- 9 15, so if both parents are working, which most people seem to want people to do, how do you sort that out? If you have enough money you end dropping them off at a child minder, which means they get up even earlier, you have to get them there, if they have time have their breakfast there, but they are exhausted by 11.00.
The well off also have school as a 'baby sitting' service, they put their children in a school with boarders that has breakfast from 7.30, and provides not only a cooked meal at lunch but supper, and snacks as well. But that's OK because they can pay for it and it's all dressed up as providing the best education for their child. The irony being the local takeaways will deliver to the school gates.
I grew up in a home where my mum didn't work, so she had time, and she needed it, to cook, bake and walk me to school, a lot of people are not able to do that.
Some can't get shot of them quick enough.
And you didn't need to tell me what goes on as I have personally worked in Schools and know all the parents" tricks", in the book don't you worry!
 

PSQ

Member
Arable Farmer
If people can't be responsible for themselves why not get a real job and forego government handouts such as BPS scheme, the other plethora of farm schemes and grants, rebated fuel and the avoidance of IHT? Damn those pesky socialists wanting others to pay for their lifestyle.
Yeah, bloody farmers, selling cheap nutritious food below the cost of production, just so that a vocal minority of lazy journalists from the most well fed population in the UKs history can slag them off while stuffing a takeaway into their gaping maw.
barsteward farmers, the lot of them.
 

primmiemoo

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Location
Devon
It will take time to set the world to rights, and imo, it's a shame to waste energy on polarising the problem or playing political ping-pong with it.

Top-ups to UC take time to come through. Signing up to the scheme might be easier than it was, but how many mealtimes does it take for first payments to be received by a family that's suddenly between a rock and a hard place through no fault of their own?



 

thesilentone

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Cumbria
Child benefit is £30 per week I believe?

my wife has just sat down and created a good healthy menu for a child on Tesco online shopping and it can be done for under £20 - if you went to Aldi or Lidl it could be done for even less

people don’t know how to shop for and cook actual ingredients. Education is the problem here not money imo

Is this correct ?
 

glasshouse

Member
Location
lothians
Sorry, but what relevance has SFP to this thread ?
For a start we don't all get a SFP,
Second it's to buffer farmers from 1970's produce prices,
Third it's pegged at 1990's levels anyway.

Roll on 2022 in Wales when subs end altogether. Then the trolls on here will have to find something else to troll about.

It's difficult to see how food could be any more affordable in this country, even allowing for supermarket profiteering. Whilst there are always exceptional circumstances, 99.99999% of folks in this country have no excuse for not being able to afford food.
Subsidies for trees, AD plants, and ponds etc are putting food prices up now
 

bluebell

Member
poverty poverty, tell that to the third world queing up to get into europe? real poverty hasnt existed in this country for a long time? how do you measure poverty in this country ? on one hand in the paper a couple of weeks ago there was an article saying the NHS is doing hip replacements, knee replacements on children , yes children because they are greatly overweight, as well as the NHS doing teeth extrations to children below the age of 5 rotten teeth? When i see old black and white films from the 40s, 50s, early sixties two things strike me one how everyone is so thin, two everyone seems much more happier, could be a three but wont mention that one?
 

bluebell

Member
Poverty, bit like the TV series bread, turning up at the dole office in a jag , dressed in designer clothes ? Or the other side TV series only fools and horses , trying to make something, next year willbe millonares?
 

Agrivator

Member
What are the logistics of Free School-Meals during holidays?

Are they served in School canteens?

If so, who does the cooking and serving?

How do those children who aren't in walking distance get to school?

What happens to them when they have finished their free dinner?
 

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