Why Has Our Govt. Got This Anti Food Growing Policey?

[bluebell]

I thought that by us leaving the EU we here in the UK, would shape/create a new agriculture/horticulture support package for food production? All i see thats happened is that large blocks of productive land are by new "incentives" leaving abandoning, stopping food production, that and the massive continued loss of land to new housing, (talk of 300,000) a year, how much land will that swallow up? Tree planting, rewilding, mass solarfarms etc, all this will drive the industry base and the support industries down, while while? the UKs population grows massively? Any one, a child? can see that these two opposing forces will collide very soon? Tears will be shed?

 

[Johnnyboxer]

Greening and achieving net zero - all about environmental
That’s your answer
Food - they want to import it
Uk is a service country and not a net producer now

 

[delilah]

i'm not sure that they have i think it is largely cock up rather than conspiracy ? but there is no e in policy ?

 

[melted welly]

Don’t think it’s a deliberate anti food policy, more that weak/incompetent policy makers are being led by the nose by big money interests and emotional activists, meanwhile whilst our industry fights amongst itself with few common messages

 

[colhonk]

Because the people in charge are now just a bunch of clueless dribbling idiots.

 

[Nithsdale]

I remember reading almost 20 years ago that the long term Westminster ideology - regardless of party in power - is to turn the mainland island of Great Britain into Hong Kong.


They genuinely believe the financial sector will keep the country running and everything we 'need' can be bought/imported.

 

[Gadget]

Even with a change of Government, they will have the same Civil Servants advising them. Their opinions will still shape policy to a certain degree.

 

[Top Tip.]

I was involved in a meeting with the Scottish first minister this week where he made it quite clear that agriculture was expected to achieve net zero by 2030. He genuinely had no answer when it was pointed out that to achieve this would mean a huge reduction in food production and in some cases an end to some types of food production. My take on this is that he is being advised by idiots. Agriculture has to be given a derogation because the alternative is starvation.

 

[Nearly]

I remember reading almost 20 years ago that the long term Westminster ideology - regardless of party in power - is to turn the mainland island of Great Britain into Hong Kong.


They genuinely believe the financial sector will keep the country running and everything we 'need' can be bought/imported.

We lost that overnight 25 years ago. They're giving this island away in stages.

 

[Nearly]

I was involved in a meeting with the Scottish first minister this week where he made it quite clear that agriculture was expected to achieve net zero by 2030. He genuinely had no answer when it was pointed out that to achieve this would mean a huge reduction in food production and in some cases an end to some types of food production. My take on this is that he is being advised by idiots. Agriculture has to be given a derogation because the alternative is starvation.

Calculate it the right way and we've been better than net zero forever.

 

[Nithsdale]

We lost that overnight 25 years ago. They're giving this island away in stages.

It doesn't matter if we (they) gave Hong Kong away or not - that is the 'model' they are copying with this Island we are on

 

[Nearly]

It doesn't matter if we (they) gave Hong Kong away or not - that is the 'model' they are copying with this Island we are on

We went there in '92. The economy seemed to depend on all the little people working for little money looking after all the important folk. Oh, and a pint was £5 then! No thanks.

 

[Nithsdale]

We went there in '92. The economy seemed to depend on all the little people working for little money looking after all the important folk. Oh, and a pint was £5 then! No thanks.

Yes. That's where we are heading.

 

[Dave6170]

I was involved in a meeting with the Scottish first minister this week where he made it quite clear that agriculture was expected to achieve net zero by 2030. He genuinely had no answer when it was pointed out that to achieve this would mean a huge reduction in food production and in some cases an end to some types of food production. My take on this is that he is being advised by idiots. Agriculture has to be given a derogation because the alternative is starvation.

Is he any more likeable in person?

 

[milkloss]

I was involved in a meeting with the Scottish first minister this week where he made it quite clear that agriculture was expected to achieve net zero by 2030. He genuinely had no answer when it was pointed out that to achieve this would mean a huge reduction in food production and in some cases an end to some types of food production. My take on this is that he is being advised by idiots. Agriculture has to be given a derogation because the alternative is starvation.

He wants telling to go away and do something else until he can count carbon properly.

Why are we even discussing net zero with them? Until we are properly accounted for they can go fk themselves imo.

 

[melted welly]

Is he any more likeable in person?

Be hard to be any less likeable.

 

[britishblue]

Be hard to be any less likeable.

Did he seem concerned about the hate crime charges heading his way for the racism he has spread about the native white population in Scotland?

 

[farmerm]

I thought that by us leaving the EU we here in the UK, would shape/create a new agriculture/horticulture support package for food production? All i see thats happened is that large blocks of productive land are by new "incentives" leaving abandoning, stopping food production, that and the massive continued loss of land to new housing, (talk of 300,000) a year, how much land will that swallow up? Tree planting, rewilding, mass solarfarms etc, all this will drive the industry base and the support industries down, while while? the UKs population grows massively? Any one, a child? can see that these two opposing forces will collide very soon? Tears will be shed?

What on earth possessed you to think that leaving the EU would shape a new support package for food production, even the pro brexit liars didnt make any such promises

 

[DaveGrohl]

Calculate it the right way and we've been better than net zero forever.

Indeed, that’s how absurd all of this is. Sad thing is, unintended consequences didn’t used to matter as much as they do now. The anti-knowledge beliefs of policy influencers are gonna have serious long-term consequences.

 

[Top Tip.]

Is he any more likeable in person?

I would say yes,he was willing to listen and he was quite personable. Much more so than wee Nicola it was her way or no way.