Why is it always £70 / acre ?

DRC

Member
Unless they match BPS at the bare minimum they will struggle to get the uptake.

At the end of the day they want us to do all these enviro things and so forth, well unfortunately they'll have to pay for it.
BUT, even if they match it, it’ll only be income foregone on many options . Before you could do a wild bird mix or something at £500/ha, then get the BPS on top.
 

Henarar

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Somerset
Exactly that, they don’t understand it and mention anything to do with carbon this carbon that you just get a blank face.
This is the silly thing, many of those farmers will already be doing plenty for the environment and wildlife which is what they so called want, loads of PP some that is very diverse. small fields, big hedges loads of trees, already doing their bit will get nothing
 

BrianV

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Dartmoor
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is it not the plan , just make it so damn awkward , nobody claims, Huge amount of money saved , to hell with destroying the industry. mission accomplished .
Seems they have taken what was a reasonably straight forward scheme once we got it sorted & have now come up with as complicated & time wasting scheme that they could possibly think of which is likely to change from year to year!
The aim is to transfer SFP funds to as many businesses outside of actual farming as they possibly can, nothing this government says can be taken on face value or trusted!
 

copse

Member
Mixed Farmer
I am honestly not sure any of these schemes are worth the bother. Better to keep your eye on the agricultural ball. £70/ha isn’t much grain yield. Concentrate on maintaining agricultural performance without the added overhead or potentially yield limiting constraints of the scheme and I think we will be OK. I still have enough potential to do better agriculturally to mitigate the loss of BPS. Left myself some headroom. Haven’t really been trying for the last 30 years.😆
Forget about the schemes and foot to the floor here!
 

Derrick Hughes

Member
Location
Ceredigion
The old SFP was stuck in the 90's at £70 / acre or thereabouts.
ELMS apparently is £70/ acre
Carbon sequestering is, you guessed it.........around £70 / acre.

Coincidence ? Or is this the universal figure arrived at behind closed doors that the bigger operators will accept without kicking up too much fuss ?

I'd be more content at £1000/ acre, but that's just me..... [emoji23]
Will there still be a SFP or is it all linked to that
 

7610 super q

Never Forgotten
Honorary Member
Will there still be a SFP or is it all linked to that
I've no idea what's happening in Wales. AFAIK , subsidy is going to end altogether to be replaced by grants for chocolate tea pots. And you will hardly be able to accept carbon payments with spuds/ root crops in the rotation ?. I'm preparing myself for one last SFP in 2022, and that's that.
 

Derrick Hughes

Member
Location
Ceredigion
I've no idea what's happening in Wales. AFAIK , subsidy is going to end altogether to be replaced by grants for chocolate tea pots. And you will hardly be able to accept carbon payments with spuds/ root crops in the rotation ?. I'm preparing myself for one last SFP in 2022, and that's that.
I don't think it will be my sort of grant will it , lime and drainage [emoji24]
 

farmerm

Member
Location
Shropshire
That would require the legislation to give increased rights of access to private property.
The wealthy and powerful won't want that.
They need to offer just enough to get us to sign up so they get their right to inspect.
You think you can stop the environment agency coming onto private property, much of it can be seen from public land or public rights of way and all of it can be inspected from the air!
 

Henarar

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Somerset
I've no idea what's happening in Wales. AFAIK , subsidy is going to end altogether to be replaced by grants for chocolate tea pots. And you will hardly be able to accept carbon payments with spuds/ root crops in the rotation ?. I'm preparing myself for one last SFP in 2022, and that's that.
then on to the straw chopping dole for you
 

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