Why is it continuously raining?

[David.]

Just made the mistake of looking for seedlings in the last sown field from 14 days ago.
- It was like sticking my fingers in a bucket of cold vomit. It's growing, but it's not going to be pretty.
Talking to 'the trade' yesterday apparently only 20% of the English wheat crop has been sown, but even a disastrous harvest will only drag prices back up towards import parity which will probably only be £10-15 more than where we are now, and thats already been priced in to the market by the looks of it for 2021 prices.
Does anyone know how the French and German winter sown crops are looking?

That just demonstrates that 'the trade' know that it is never too soon to start down-managing your expectations.

 

[Steevo]

Just made the mistake of looking for seedlings in the last sown field from 14 days ago.
- It was like sticking my fingers in a bucket of cold vomit. It's growing, but it's not going to be pretty.
Talking to 'the trade' yesterday apparently only 20% of the English wheat crop has been sown, but even a disastrous harvest will only drag prices back up towards import parity which will probably only be £10-15 more than where we are now, and thats already been priced in to the market by the looks of it for 2021 prices.
Does anyone know how the French and German winter sown crops are looking?

Heard similar - 20-25% was the figure I heard. Same source suggested French and Germans were having similar issues - 50% or so planted apparently.

 

[Grassman]

We had nearly 4" of rain yesterday

 

[Gong Farmer]

Just made the mistake of looking for seedlings in the last sown field from 14 days ago.
- It was like sticking my fingers in a bucket of cold vomit. It's growing, but it's not going to be pretty.
Talking to 'the trade' yesterday apparently only 20% of the English wheat crop has been sown, but even a disastrous harvest will only drag prices back up towards import parity which will probably only be £10-15 more than where we are now, and thats already been priced in to the market by the looks of it for 2021 prices.
Does anyone know how the French and German winter sown crops are looking?

Not sure how accurate this is but it's very sobering. Bit in there where the new EU Ag Commissioner talks of 1000 farms a day going out of business, and sharp rise in suicides among French farmers

 

[TonyMartinwasright]

Climate change my a*se! If you look back over the last fifty years we get dry years and we get wet years. At least we don't seem to get the extreme long cold winters anymore that turned fields into ice rinks.

 

[teslacoils]

Climates do change.
Climate change is real.
"Man made" climate change is less certain.
Certainly over 100 years, so not a lot in terms of climate, there is a trend towards slightly wetter UK weather but a stronger correlation to those rainfall events being more intense.
Can we in the UK do anything about it beyond pander to our affluent westerner guilt? Probably not.

Some reading.

Information Sheet 15 redirection

 

[David.]

Not sure how accurate this is but it's very sobering. Bit in there where the new EU Ag Commissioner talks of 1000 farms a day going out of business, and sharp rise in suicides among French farmers

This doesn't seem to be gaining traction, rewilding remains the holy grail.

 

[Roy_H]

Global warming innit!!

On the other hand :-

The Victoria Falls Is Drying Up Faster Than Ever After The Century’s Worst Drought Hit Africa - ScoopWhoop

For its stunning view, the Victoria Falls have drawn millions of tourists to Zimbabwe and Zambia but due to the worst drought of the century, it will probably kill the fall soon.

www.scoopwhoop.com

 

[farmerm]

Not sure how accurate this is but it's very sobering. Bit in there where the new EU Ag Commissioner talks of 1000 farms a day going out of business, and sharp rise in suicides among French farmers

Poor chap, he will worry himself into an early grave, though I am probably no better . You can pick out similar examples of local weather conditions adversely affecting local food production every year for the past hundred years! If global food production is declining we would be seeing a big uplift in prices would we not, if anything the inverse is true. Over the past 35 years the sun has been going though a quieter phase with decreased solar activity yet despite this global average temperature has continued to rise. Increased CO2 and other greenhouse gasses may well have averted a period of global cooling, the real concern that I think is overlooked is if and when the Sun moves back into a more active state the additional solar radiation combined with the increasing greenhouse gases may well cause the global temperature to rocket past any of even the worst case temperature forecasts!

Now scientists cant agree about the extent of the temperature increase... but most data shows the same upward trend to global temperatures.

 

[Grassman]

Climate change my a*se! If you look back over the last fifty years we get dry years and we get wet years. At least we don't seem to get the extreme long cold winters anymore that turned fields into ice rinks.

Do you think the experts are totally wrong? Will it matter when the rain forests are gone? Should we just carry on regardless till all the oil and gas and coal is gone?
Not saying I believe all the experts totally but surely they know better than us. The growth of the human race across the globe is astronomical. As the poorer countries catch up they want the luxuries we are used to. How we can accommodate this long term is beyond me.

 

[Right-arm fast]

Just made the mistake of looking for seedlings in the last sown field from 14 days ago.
- It was like sticking my fingers in a bucket of cold vomit. It's growing, but it's not going to be pretty.
Talking to 'the trade' yesterday apparently only 20% of the English wheat crop has been sown, but even a disastrous harvest will only drag prices back up towards import parity which will probably only be £10-15 more than where we are now, and thats already been priced in to the market by the looks of it for 2021 prices.
Does anyone know how the French and German winter sown crops are looking?

Its a long way to harvest yet. I dare say if our wheat tonnage in the uk was 50% of the norm next harvest it wouldn't impact prices much as we are not significant in global terms. Its what happens elsewhere in the large wheat producing areas/ countries that matters.

 

[farmerm]

Do you think the experts are totally wrong? Will it matter when the rain forests are gone? Should we just carry on regardless till all the oil and gas and coal is gone?
Not saying I believe all the experts totally but surely they know better than us. The growth of the human race across the globe is astronomical. As the poorer countries catch up they want the luxuries we are used to. How we can accommodate this long term is beyond me.

World population is currently doubling in less than a human lifetime, when my young children's are reaching retirement the global population is due to be double what it is today. It is inconceivable to me that we can continue to support population growth at that rate. Even if we can meet the demand for food, water, energy and other resources the detrimental effect of so many people on the environment is going to make it a pretty miserable existence for those generations that follow.

We have dumped more plastic, chemical and medicinal waste into our environment in the past 20 years than in the past 2000.

 

[Gordy1]

After nearly 240mm of rain since 22 September, I haven`t heard a weather forecaster once say why it`s continuously raining. I just want to know 2 things, one, when`s it going to stop and 2, why is it such a long period of rain without a let up?

It’s now 10th Dec. & still raining!!☔️

 

[teslacoils]

World population is currently doubling in less than a human lifetime, when my young children's are reaching retirement the global population is due to be double what it is today. It is inconceivable to me that we can continue to support population growth at that rate. Even if we can meet the demand for food, water, energy and other resources the detrimental effect of so many people on the environment is going to make it a pretty miserable existence for those generations that follow.

We have dumped more plastic, chemical and medicinal waste into our environment in the past 20 years than in the past 2000.

Indeed. Some of the world's more populous countries are also very young in demographics. Nigeria for example. To suggest that we can deny higher standards of living for developing countries is wrong. You can't stop it. So make small changes if you want - without military intervention the rainforest will be gone in my lifetime.

 

[Grassman]

Indeed. Some of the world's more populous countries are also very young in demographics. Nigeria for example. To suggest that we can deny higher standards of living for developing countries is wrong. You can't stop it. So make small changes if you want - without military intervention the rainforest will be gone in my lifetime.

Unfortunately as things progress I see the superpowers taking action to safeguard the planet for their chosen subjects. In some respects this may be the only course to take.
I hope I'm wrong.

 

[teslacoils]

It's quite likely. Thing is, the rural poor in the pretty parts of the world are just goin to move to tourism. If the elephant etc isgoing to become extinct, I'd better get my skates on and go see it. Queue one co2 laden flight and essentially chasing endangered species about with my camera. And why should I not, if they are doomed and someone else will only do it instead?

 

[Mickeydredd]

On the other hand :-

The Victoria Falls Is Drying Up Faster Than Ever After The Century’s Worst Drought Hit Africa - ScoopWhoop

For its stunning view, the Victoria Falls have drawn millions of tourists to Zimbabwe and Zambia but due to the worst drought of the century, it will probably kill the fall soon.

www.scoopwhoop.com

As it states in the title, it is a drought. That isn't global warming.

 

[Roy_H]

As it states in the title, it is a drought. That isn't global warming.

Indeed. What l was referring to was the fact that we are getting floods whereas over there they are desperate for rain.

 

[glasshouse]

it will be to do with Brexit

john major organised the best weather, and a weak pound, and a simple payment system.
come back john, please
??

 

[glasshouse]

Just made the mistake of looking for seedlings in the last sown field from 14 days ago.
- It was like sticking my fingers in a bucket of cold vomit. It's growing, but it's not going to be pretty.
Talking to 'the trade' yesterday apparently only 20% of the English wheat crop has been sown, but even a disastrous harvest will only drag prices back up towards import parity which will probably only be £10-15 more than where we are now, and thats already been priced in to the market by the looks of it for 2021 prices.
Does anyone know how the French and German winter sown crops are looking?

The trade are in the business of depressing farmers and persuading them to sell forward when they know that prices will rocket.