startinghandle
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There is a shortage of welders in the country, even at jcb
Is it because certificates are needed?
Or the wages are crap?
Is it because certificates are needed?
Or the wages are crap?
Why is there a big shortage of welders?
- Thread starter startinghandle
- Start date
- Location
- Northumberland
Doing the dairy upgrade last year a lad came out from a pipeline company to weld stainless steel pipes for us.
He was saying he had a regular calls with offers of jobs in the UK & abroad for silly money. He had a baby on the way so was not moving in the short term.
He was saying he had a regular calls with offers of jobs in the UK & abroad for silly money. He had a baby on the way so was not moving in the short term.
Ifor Williams , welding , wow , you live and learn .
Lincs Lass
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- north lincs
Not surprising what I read a few months ago ,,lots of very unhappy IW workers ,,working conditions are not what they should be and unrealistic production targets .
Lakesdigger
Member
Hardly surprising though is it, would you be prepared to pay more for a trailer?
Lincs Lass
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- Location
- north lincs
Not the price new ones are I wouldnt ,,nearly 7k for a basic 10x5 tipper ,stick another grand on for all the extras
Lakesdigger
Member
I think there's a lot of profiteering going on currently making the most of shortage of supply but labour will be a fair chunk of IW costs.
Don't tell me.........it's due to Brexit isn't it ? That'll be it. They've all gone back home due to Bexit. I knew it. Brexit.
Lincs Lass
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- Location
- north lincs
That's why so many are getting pinched ,new costs and waiting time
- Location
- Cambs/Suffolk/Norfolk
I don’t see any attraction in factory welding. I’d never get a job anywhere like that anyway. I have no certificates at all.
But I can drive my truck down a potato headland and weld on a new irrigation hydrant in the mud
I think the whole agri engineering industry is short on staff.
But I can drive my truck down a potato headland and weld on a new irrigation hydrant in the mud
I think the whole agri engineering industry is short on staff.
I don't think it has anything to do with requiring certificates, a lot of industrial welding will require the welders to qualify against a specific weld procedure so having generic certificates probably are not a blocker.
I would say its classed as dirty manual labour with relatively poor pay in comparison to other options and it is just not seen as desirable work these days to the masses. Same reason that it can be difficult to find good labour on farms these days.
I would say its classed as dirty manual labour with relatively poor pay in comparison to other options and it is just not seen as desirable work these days to the masses. Same reason that it can be difficult to find good labour on farms these days.
- Location
- South Pennines ol14
Don’t know about in agriculture but when I did my apprenticeship ( heavy engineering)
Welders did a full four year apprenticeship
Lack of manufacturing hence lack of apprenticeships may be the answer
I remember vickers in barrow used to take 300 apprentice’s a year
Them opportunities are long gone
Welders did a full four year apprenticeship
Lack of manufacturing hence lack of apprenticeships may be the answer
I remember vickers in barrow used to take 300 apprentice’s a year
Them opportunities are long gone
john432
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- Location
- Carmarthenshire
Guess it's harder to get someone to weld thin metal
Hilly
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- Location
- Scottish Borders.
Have you tried welding for 4O hrs a week ?
Lakesdigger
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It's not just lack of manufacturing It's also lack of apprentices. There's too many jobs which pay reasonable wages with very little training needed if any. Low wage of an apprenticeship for 3 or 4 years doesn't appeal to young uns when their mates are stacking shelves for double what they can get. By the time they realise the long term gain which could have come from short term pain they are too far though life to step back to a peanuts wage.
- Location
- South Pennines ol14
I am going back to 1980, I was an apprentice mechanical fitter , there was vickers, glaxo, bowater Scott, plus a myriad of supporting small firms
Lads from our village either went in to farming or industry, not many would want to work in the super market, in fact I remember my folks shopping in Ulverston, no big supermarkets until Asda opened in Barrow, but that’s another story , plus the fact youngsters would sooner be at uni than get dirty hands
As an aside .. I went on to do my hnd and was chief engineer in a dairy in Manchester, I approached a director one day re some funding for some training, he actually put his hand up and said “ your here to mend things , how dare you talk to me about funding”
I quit soon after and went self employed taking great pleasure to bill them a day a week to bale them out of the sh*t
glasshouse
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- Location
- lothians
No Poles
Wellytrack
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It’s hard work, and skilled. The tame welder that does my work is not yet 40 and says his knees are bucked.