Why is this happening????

[Flat 10]

I don't know how not using any agchem is magically great for the environment? Errrr you are growing a crop in monoculture and annually removing it for your own gain. Whether you plough it, pre-em it, whack it with dursban, temik or aphicide or even set the standing crop on fire is absolutely irrelevant- it is land in production and a million miles away from any natural habitat I know of.

Playing the I don't want to kill everything card is a bit rich given that production agriculture has been doing that since the hand hoe was invented.

If agriculture wants to be as green as possible it should adopt two approaches- produce the maximum economic yield from an area of land OR allow land to return to a completely wilderness state untouched by the hand of man as far as possible, which will eventually become climax forest and support the maximum number of species.

Claiming aphicides are terrible for the environment is like complaining about speeding during an F1 race.

Predators in an arable field, how exactly do these survive passes by combines, cultivators, drills and ring rollers? Ive chanced my arm with BYDV and got away with it before but you din't see me saying aphicides are terrible and no one should use them.

Some very good points. Arable farming is not at all ‘natural’ but I’m certain that 7billion people can’t survive without it. However I do believe improvements can be made but I believe that this can be best done by the actual farmers themselves, not by crude blanket bans. There should be carrots to encourage it and big sticks for those disobeying best practices. Just my opinion fwiw.

 

[jaycee]

Quite.

 

[MrNoo]

I gather a lot of pre-emm's delivered onto farm are not being taken back speaking with my agronomist this morning. He said some very unhappy campers at a recent NROSO course he held. He did mention names but I wont repeat which companies.
Always thought the "goods" were owned by the companies until payment? Guess not, bit of a tricky one.

 

[jaycee]

If the cap fits when the boot is on the other foot !!!

 

[John Slejpner]

I gather a lot of pre-emm's delivered onto farm are not being taken back speaking with my agronomist this morning. He said some very unhappy campers at a recent NROSO course he held. He did mention names but I wont repeat which companies.
Always thought the "goods" were owned by the companies until payment? Guess not, bit of a tricky one.

Option 1...suppliers take back pre-em and send it out again in 10 months
Option 2..suppliers leave it on farm unpaid for .

I "think" option 2 is very tax efficient aka a bad debt (which of course it is not really). Can someone who knows more than me about accounting confirm this?

 

[phil]

I have today travelled from Spilsby to Cromer and I cannot believe how many fields of drilled cereal crops have had a pre-em applied in shocking conditions, the crops were obviously only just mauled in (and they look crap) who recd a crop which was likely to fail given the weather conditions to be sprayed with a hold it back weed killer?? Black grass or not this year see a crop before spending money!! By the way the sprayer wheelings are deep and full of H2O what a mess,, CRIMINAL!!

Perhaps conditions were good on the day it was drilled ?