Why should I stay..............

[Henarar]

So, questions I have , 1 . affordable housing , what’s affordable and what’s not ? Number please .
2 . If buying selling is restricted , who can buy who can’t ? What’s the parameters?

Right now what I have is affordable much else isnt, not that I want much else.
Don't know that buying should be restricted

 

[glasshouse]

It’s not so much the dole it will
Be very little , it’s the extras that are not massiy
Published almost kept secret , rents paid tax paid , dog paid for kids paid for mobility car paid for the list is long , my mates wife used to deal
With them if they fill the right forms in they can extract without to much hassle 52k a year iirc in Scotland .

Its the same for whole uk, its not a devolved issue

 

[Hilly]

Its the same for whole uk, its not a devolved issue

I didn’t say it was , but it will be dressed up differently either side of border . What is a devolved issue anyway only one I can think of is we now pay more income tax than England well done on that front not .

 

[toquark]

Jeez do you boys not have work be at??!!

There needs to be a distinction between second homes and buy to let. There is a big difference between offering a short assured tenancy to people which can help alleviate housing shortages, and buying a house for it to sit empty until such time as you and only you wish to use it for handful of weeks per year.

I always hear this argument by holiday home owners that they in some way beneficial for the economies of the areas that they buy into. How can a property which is empty 90% of the time be of greater or even equal benefit to one which is fully occupied by people working and spending locally all the way through the year?

 

[JP1]

Jeez do you boys not have work be at??!!

There needs to be a distinction between second homes and buy to let. There is a big difference between offering a short assured tenancy to people which can help alleviate housing shortages, and buying a house for it to sit empty until such time as you and only you wish to use it for handful of weeks per year.

I always hear this argument by holiday home owners that they in some way beneficial for the economies of the areas that they buy into. How can a property which is empty 90% of the time be of greater or even equal benefit to one which is fully occupied by people working and spending locally all the way through the year?

I doubt many more than a handful are empty 90% of the time

Most I know are either weekend cottage or let out as a holiday cottage with weeks not let when family wish to use it.

If you fancy coming down here, I'd happily show you the difference it makes to the attractive places where most of the second homes are

 

[toquark]

I doubt many more than a handful are empty 90% of the time

Most I know are either weekend cottage or let out as a holiday cottage with weeks not let when family wish to use it.

If you fancy coming down here, I'd happily show you the difference it makes to the attractive places where most of the second homes are

I don’t doubt they are attractive places, that’s why they’re full of second homes. Just because a place has a nice pub and a shop selling ciabatta’s and olives, doesn’t make it vibrant, it just makes it a glorified holiday park for the middle classes.

I can point you to half a dozen or so around here which haven’t had anyone in them in the last 16 months as they’re foreign owned.

 

[Henarar]

they’re foreign owned.

them bloody English ?

 

[toquark]

them bloody English ?

No, Danish mainly. You know, the ones that won’t let us buy a holiday house over there?

 

[Henarar]

No, Danish mainly. You know, the ones that won’t let us buy a holiday house over there?

Well they can't buy one there so they buy one in Scotland, they have it sussed apparently

 

[digger64]

I doubt many more than a handful are empty 90% of the time

Most I know are either weekend cottage or let out as a holiday cottage with weeks not let when family wish to use it.

If you fancy coming down here, I'd happily show you the difference it makes to the attractive places where most of the second homes are

these observations depend on the eye the beholders circumstances
or needs . you cant live in 2 places at once so there must be an empty property somewhere .
Chelsea on sea isnt my idea of attractive or fun in fact its depressing but each to, their own I suppose

 

[Ffermer Bach]

does that mean you are going to farm in denmark? oh, i forgot they don't allow foreign persons to buy property. at least that is what i think was said on here. how about renting, would that be allowed?

I think they changed that rule now, it was called a green card, where, anyone managing a farm had to have a green card, where you had to have spent one year in college in Denmark, and worked three years on a farm, two of which could not be the home farm. I was told they did that to stop the Germans buying all the Danish farms (they could buy them, but had to have a Dane managing it). Maybe any Danish members could tell us if you still need a Gron Kort?

 

[toquark]

Well they can't buy one there so they buy one in Scotland, they have it sussed apparently

They do! I like the Danes, they’re good people and in my experience, like minded and sensible. But the system that favours their buying power over locals isn’t fit for purpose.

The disparity between those who have versus those who haven’t is growing rapidly and history tells us that when this happens, it invariably ends very badly.

Im not personally bitter, I’m lucky enough to be able to live in a nice place but if I’d been 10 years younger, I doubt I could have done it, the market here has been knocked completely out of kilter by a rapidly rising proportion of holiday homes. This has coincided with many local amenities and services reducing as the actual population ages and falls.

 

[Ffermer Bach]

Jeez do you boys not have work be at??!!

There needs to be a distinction between second homes and buy to let. There is a big difference between offering a short assured tenancy to people which can help alleviate housing shortages, and buying a house for it to sit empty until such time as you and only you wish to use it for handful of weeks per year.

I always hear this argument by holiday home owners that they in some way beneficial for the economies of the areas that they buy into. How can a property which is empty 90% of the time be of greater or even equal benefit to one which is fully occupied by people working and spending locally all the way through the year?

But interesting point Forage Trader said that in the 70's and 80's you could not give away the little cottages in rural Ceredigion, and a lot of them were left to fall down as no one wanted them. I think too many second homes is not good, especially where a village loses it's critical mass, however also letting the houses fall down is equally bad.

 

[JP1]

these observations depend on the eye the beholders circumstances
or needs . you cant live in 2 places at once so there must be an empty property somewhere .
Chelsea on sea isnt my idea of attractive or fun in fact its depressing but each to, their own I suppose

True one person can't but the observation was about occupancy. This (Covid ) year most folks I know have 100% holiday lettings up to and right over Christmas

 

[Henarar]

They do! I like the Danes, they’re good people and in my experience, like minded and sensible. But the system that favours their buying power over locals isn’t fit for purpose.

The disparity between those who have versus those who haven’t is growing rapidly and history tells us that when this happens, it invariably ends very badly.

Im not personally bitter, I’m lucky enough to be able to live in a nice place but if I’d been 10 years younger, I doubt I could have done it, the market here has been knocked completely out of kilter by a rapidly rising proportion of holiday homes. This has coincided with many local amenities and services reducing as the actual population ages and falls.

some on here think they do

 

[Cowabunga]

So anyone in retirement that hasn't lived in the parish before? What about someone from south Wales? A lot from there don't speak any Welsh should they be allowed to come ?
There is a retired Welsh chap lives up the road, should he have not been allowed to come here? but if he went to Wales he don't speak any Welsh so thats no good,
oh dear what a job it is when someone tries to say who can do what

They only buy holiday chalets on parks, because there is no economic advantage to them from buying down toa house here.

 

[Cowabunga]

Tax is legalised theft and discourages people from
Doing anything, they soon get sick and the hardworkimgIndustrious types leave .

We are not suggesting taxing working people here though. Only those that come here with no work lined up.

 

[glasshouse]

some on here think they do

What?

 

[glasshouse]

A home being turned into a buy to let or holiday let arbnb should have to seek planning for change of use.
Let the visitors live in caravans , not the locals

 

[Dry Rot]

That can't be right, surely.

If they've mates on the council, they could get more!