Why should the USA bankroll NATO.

Clever Dic

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Location
Melton
I ask this question as all good liberal europeans berate Trump and the US but meanwhile want to spend money on social welfare in their country while the US pays for their collective security.
According to the Times today the US spends 3.57% on defence meanwhile Germany 1% , Netherlands 1% and Belgium less than 1% . Not only is the % greater but the total sum is greater than the rest of NATO combined !!!!.
Meanwhile Germany with a huge trade surplus with the US "hopes" to meet the 2% by 2030 .
I dont blame Trump for demanding a greater commitment from the smug liberals in Europe who want their cake and eat it.
@Walterp has a thread about not biting the hand that feeds you .Well dont bite the one that defends you either.
 

Clever Dic

Member
Location
Melton
They like being the big kids
Come on ....not really an answer ..
Barnier and Junker want to freeze us out of the Galileo GPS system which is hilarious as take the UK out of a European defence force and possible future US indifference and you would not have a force to worry Wales let alone Putin.
 
Of course the USA should not fund NATO to the extent it does. Puts a different perspective on Mrs May's spat with Russia though.

Not only has she put the back up of Russians but she's also made an enemy of Trump .. an "ex UK spy" created the "Golden Shower" dossier and promptly sold it to Hilary Clinton - IMHO with tacit agreement from no.10
 

czechmate

Member
Mixed Farmer
Come on ....not really an answer ..
Barnier and Junker want to freeze us out of the Galileo GPS system which is hilarious as take the UK out of a European defence force and possible future US indifference and you would not have a force to worry Wales let alone Putin.


Come on. The likes of trump just love to tell us all what a big player they are
 
I guess Europe and to a degree the US are living in the past, we (US) are still in that post WW2 mindset with bases and thousands of troops scattered around the globe. As a US taxpayer I very much resent the attitude taken by Europe and cannot wait for the day when President Trump holds their feet to the fire........personally I would pull the American troops of EU today, why must the tax payers of America continue to subsidize wealthy Europeans safety..?

I am saying all this knowing it will never happen........maybe just send Germany a bill for services rendered..??
 

uztrac

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Arable Farmer
Location
fakenham-norfolk
I firmly believe that each country should fund its own military,internal security & border force/s.We should look after ourselves first before getting involved in others problems and conflicts.Switzerland is an excellent example,prosperity by looking after number 1 first.
 

Ashtree

Member
I firmly believe that each country should fund its own military,internal security & border force/s.We should look after ourselves first before getting involved in others problems and conflicts.Switzerland is an excellent example,prosperity by looking after number 1 first.

Don’t the Americans like to subsidise Israel??
That wouldn’t have ought to do with the Jewish vote, money, influence in New York .... would it???
 

Muck Spreader

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Limousin
The US has military influence all over the world and bases in over 80 counties. This had mostly been to counter the old USSR but Russia is still a serious threat today.
Countries with US military Bases:-
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Clever Dic

Member
Location
Melton
Don’t the Americans like to subsidise Israel??
That wouldn’t have ought to do with the Jewish vote, money, influence in New York .... would it???
Gosh Ash dont you just love facts.
Biggest contributor to UN Palestinian refugees fund is....................The US ...
double the whole of the EU is there lots of Palestinian pressure and votes and influence or are the US just more generous.
Europe does not seem keen on paying for its defence or anything else.
 

Muck Spreader

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Limousin
Gosh Ash dont you just love facts.
Biggest contributor to UN Palestinian refugees fund is....................The US ...
double the whole of the EU is there lots of Palestinian pressure and votes and influence or are the US just more generous.
Europe does not seem keen on paying for its defence or anything else.

I would suggest you go and check your figures again. Europe funds the Palestinians to a far grater extent than the US.
 

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