Why?????

mixed breed

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Mixed Farmer
WHY ARE THERE TWO KNOTS ON A LOT OF BIG SQUARE BALES NOWADAYS
ABSOLUTELY CHUFFING RIDICULOUS
:mad::mad::mad::mad:
Someone was telling me that it's to do with the tension on the string, over a long distance it's a big pull on the knotters so they knot it twice to reduce this... I was struggling to see the sense in it...
 

Jdunn55

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It is driving me insane, only had it start happening last year, cant load the bloody straw chopper normally now, have to sit the bale on its end and then take the top half off and put that in the back just to get the bloody strings out
 

Extreme Optimist

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Livestock Farmer
It is driving me insane, only had it start happening last year, cant load the bloody straw chopper normally now, have to sit the bale on its end and then take the top half off and put that in the back just to get the bloody strings out
We put the bale on it's edge and the string comes off easily. Cut on the opposite side to the knots.
 

milkloss

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Livestock Farmer
Location
East Sussex
WHY ARE THERE TWO KNOTS ON A LOT OF BIG SQUARE BALES NOWADAYS
ABSOLUTELY CHUFFING RIDICULOUS
:mad::mad::mad::mad:

I agree and have made the same comment in the past. I think it’s because, in general, the people that make the bales don’t have to use them. I now refuse to have a double knotted bale on the farm and have told the contractor.

its some balls about not Needing to drag the string around the bale as it is made. I don’t buy it and there is no easy way to take the string off one of these in a bedder apart from cut off what you can and let it wind the rest round the rotor.
 

Jdunn55

Member
We put the bale on it's edge and the string comes off easily. Cut on the opposite side to the knots.
Tried that but the last half a dozen flasks then fall off the back of the straw chopper and because the straw is beautiful as soon as you pick it up it falls apart and subsequently wont fit in the straw chopper, makes me want to tear my hair out. Going to weld an extension on the chopper when I get time :/ we do cut on the opposite side but it's a pain when you cant see the knots so cut the side you think it is to only find out you've made what seems like the worst mistake of your life...
 

HarryB97

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Mixed Farmer
Joys of a Claas baler only one knotter! I cut the strings and tie a knot in the end and then another knot just below to leave a small loop and put the bale spike through the loop to pull the strings out.
 
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Jdunn55

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Speaking of which...
 

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milkloss

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Livestock Farmer
Location
East Sussex
Maybe one of the double knot baler manufacturers would care to comment on how you get the strings off a bale that is only accessible from one end loaded in a straw spreader?
 

jondear

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Location
Devon
It's ok then you come across one thats upside down in the bedder.:banghead:
If upside down can't get knots tie to back door of chopper when half bale gone lift door let bale go forward on end lower door horizontal so string don't enter rotor simples!
If knots on top always cut on end.
 

Andrew

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Location
Huntingdon, UK
With a single knot you have to pull the string round the bale, which wears the string. A double knot the string only moves with the bale so it’s stronger. You therefore get more straw in, making transport costs cheaper.

All our square balers are double knotted ones. They have been since about 1985. We also use about 35 bales a week through a spread a bale, and have no problems taking strings off.
 

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