Wifes car diesel dpf filter

[two-cylinder]

We've bought a Ford kuga with petrol 1.5 eco boost are them engines ok ?

Ok if you keep to sensible oil change schedules, ignore the handbook change at a max of 6000 miles

 

[two-cylinder]

Do you know the issues ? i was told it is the timing belt if not serviced properly as it runs in oil ?? We have just got our second 1.0 ecoboost first was a 140 bhp and now we've got a 155 mild hybrid they have both been very impressive !!

The 1.0 eco boost has a belt which runs in oil the 1.5/1.6 are dry belts

 

[two-cylinder]

my son (mechanic) said the problem was poor servicing which led to the oil pickup strainer blocking resulting in oil starvation. so service at shorter than recommended intervals.

That's correct, the oil going to the crank does not go through the main filter just a small strainer.
The quoted oil change interval is up to 18000 depending on model, change at a max of 6000.

 

[ollie989898]

Interesting, why would you want to run a belt in oil guys??

 

[JeepJeep]

CO2 emissions and engine efficiency...

 

[ollie989898]

CO2 emissions and engine efficiency...

It seems backward to me though. You want to be able to get at the thing to change it, why run it in oil and hide it away? Might as well use a geared timing train if you are running an oil bath?

 

[two-cylinder]

It seems backward to me though. You want to be able to get at the thing to change it, why run it in oil and hide it away? Might as well use a geared timing train if you are running an oil bath?

Geared timing train would add unnecessary weight

 

[2wheels]

Interesting, why would you want to run a belt in oil guys??

honda engined lawnmower has oil immersed belt for valves, no problem. i know, that is honda not ford.

 

[Timbo]

honda engined lawnmower has oil immersed belt for valves, no problem. i know, that is honda not ford.

and they do break eventually from oil degradation.

 

[ollie989898]

and they do break eventually from oil degradation.

I presume a belt in oil would be fine provided it was synthetic and not rubber based? I.e kevlar?

 

[JeepJeep]

Geared timing train would add unnecessary weight

And more drag... Hence they used for it for the Euro hurdles and efficiency.

We had TDCI Connects.... with belts in oil. Easy enough to change just messier and took a bit longer than a dry belt swap. Not as good as the 2.0 HDi Berlingo's and Partners we had.

A chimp could do the belts on them.

I'd quite happily delete the DPF from the Missus car.... It would look stock and show 0% full.

Never mind illegal and all that malarky....

 

[Will 1594]

this is breaking the law and an automatic MOT failure

ours passed 7 mot
dpf cut out of exhaust and tigged back up cannot tell been into it wires still on and runs cleaner than before

 

[Lakesdigger]

I presume a belt in oil would be fine provided it was synthetic and not rubber based? I.e kevlar?

It's not so much the oil but fuel dilution in the oil that's the issue and with longer service intervals the problem is worse.

 

[JeepJeep]

Yup 1.6 tdci is bad for leaky injectors. ... Something silly for the mileage on the cambelt swap on that but'll be done well before the book.

Everything on same oil here so it's a big tub of Smith and Allan
Her car is done every 12 months @ 6k or so and Mines done @ 10k... Mines due now. Job for next week,. Vaccy pump it this one... Drop it out the sump next one.

 

[forblue]

Ref oil immersed belts this is to stop belt squeak's.

 

[Timbo]

It's not so much the oil but fuel dilution in the oil that's the issue and with longer service intervals the problem is worse.

100% - why the 2.0 Ecoblue is especially bad when not used for long runs / driven hard- transits used for couriering are okish (til 150k at least) but Rangers with this engine are already bad bad bad news.

Any why 1.0 ecoboosts shred their belts when used in frequent cold start, short runs- thats if the woeful cooling system doesnt kill it first.

 

[rick_vandal]

and they do break eventually from oil degradation.

Honda mower OHC is a very elegant design but I can visualise the timing pulley aquaplaning on a wet belt when dry belts just whistle air.

 

[2wheels]

Honda mower OHC is a very elegant design but I can visualise the timing pulley aquaplaning on a wet belt when dry belts just whistle air.

i think it is a toothed belt so hopefully not a problem . the mower i have now is a b&s engine.

 

[Timbo]

Honda mower OHC is a very elegant design but I can visualise the timing pulley aquaplaning on a wet belt when dry belts just whistle air.

They are toothed belts oil lubricated, not in a bath of oil.

 

[Pistonbroke]

Going back to the Mokka there's a 1.7 diesel which was fitted to loads of models and and then a 1.6. Vauxhall dealer advised us to go for petrol if on short runs so wife's on her second 1.4 turbo. 140 hp and been no trouble at all. Love it.