Wild oats in Spring Barley

[yellow belly]

Check for resistance

I have a field that has W oats In it that got through Avadex
next year will give it a contact spray

 

[Bury the Trash]

Sorry was asking the OP

my post was to the op as well.


cant say whether they're completely non seed head dead yet tho

 

[Happy]

Could they have germinated after you sprayed when rain finally arrived?

 

[robs1]

Got bad wo in winter barley, thank goodness its not by a road , will be glad when we can cut it si I dont have to look at it anymore

 

[David.]

Got a slight scattering here too, Axial Pro.
It was very dry and drought stressy at time of application, so not especially surprising perhaps.

 

[Farma Parma]

My Agronomist said dont bother once WO Heads are out & they literally appeared above the SB in a few days, all since the good rain we had in June.
Ive Rogued 3 fields a few more too do. I'll get them its not as bad as the OP's tale thankfully.
I'll say one thing Hatra for weed control in the early spring has well n truly taken any WO out all my Wheat fields.. very impressed with that product

 

[redsloe]

Weed control in wheat is relatively simple, spring barley, there just doesn't seem to be enough time sometimes. Especially this year when it didn't appear worthwhile to spend too much on it!

 

[Romeogolf]

What was the water volume when spraying?

100L/ha, and I’m now wondering whether that has had an adverse effect on the control although I have yet to find reason to alter this save for pre em’s. Timing in a year like this is almost impossible to get completely correct, and as I say, there are WO that I consider to have germinated after the application, however the majority I would wager were present at the time of application.
Had the area manager for the chem company out this week as I’m really not impressed nor excited about the viable seed return, and resistance tests are due to be done in due course.
Par for the course, the worst affected part of the block is in full view of a neighbour who, it would appear, seems to enjoy my downfall - suppose it’s good for my pride!

 

[Romeogolf]

I have been through a large area of WB in recent days to clean up a few patches, and filled this bucket a few times over which I can reconcile having not spent the money on expensive herbicides.

It would take a man with considerably more enthusiasm to tackle this particular block of SB.

 

[davidroberts30]

100L/ha, and I’m now wondering whether that has had an adverse effect on the control although I have yet to find reason to alter this save for pre em’s. Timing in a year like this is almost impossible to get completely correct, and as I say, there are WO that I consider to have germinated after the application, however the majority I would wager were present at the time of application.
Had the area manager for the chem company out this week as I’m really not impressed nor excited about the viable seed return, and resistance tests are due to be done in due course.
Par for the course, the worst affected part of the block is in full view of a neighbour who, it would appear, seems to enjoy my downfall - suppose it’s good for my pride!

If you had barley cover then I don't think 100l Is enough
I wouldn't have gone less than 250 myself

 

[robbie]

I have been through a large area of WB in recent days to clean up a few patches, and filled this bucket a few times over which I can reconcile having not spent the money on expensive herbicides.
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It would take a man with considerably more enthusiasm to tackle this particular block of SB.

I get all uptight about how ridiculously expensive axial is until I've spent a few days rogueing and them it seems worth every penny.

Topik in wheat at £5 acre is a no brainer. I wont even bother putting my wellies on for that.

 

[Zippy768]

I get all uptight about how ridiculously expensive axial is until I've spent a few days rogueing and them it seems worth every penny.

Topik in wheat at £5 acre is a no brainer. I wont even bother putting my wellies on for that.

Was thinking the same thing earlier as I filled another bag.
I dont mind a bit of roguing just to keep on top of historically clean fields. But time soon passes in dirtier fields when your stood in the same 5 square metres. Topik and Foxtrot are good value if one values their time right.........not to mention ones back ??

 

[eagleye]

used to be at low water volumes with the old axial you had to up the rate of adigor, would axial pro need extra at those water volumes?

 

[Romeogolf]

If you had barley cover then I don't think 100l Is enough
I wouldn't have gone less than 250 myself

That’s interesting and certainly food for thought, Thankyou. I will also consider using these herbicides as stand alone applications instead of mixing them with fungicides in the future too.

Roguing isn’t terrific fun but is made much more enjoyable by seeing progress - which is rarely achieved when it’s a thick green muddle!

 

[jack6480]

The combine will cure it

 

[David.]

Mine went on at 8kmh and 200 litres.

 

[David.]

No, it really did. The field grows world class wild oats, and I was taking no chances.

 

[ajd132]

I used Oskar. Much cheaper than axial and did a good job

 

[jh.]

I used axial in a field we had spring oats in last year. The oats now look pretty strong and green , after asking agronomist if i was too late and axial had bounced off , he said if I pull the plant out and look at the stem , about 5" below the head should be a brown band , there is so assume the axial is making the seed unviable .

Does seem a hellish bad year for wild ones too in spring crops but I wonder if this is because I ploughed shallower last winter due to conditions

 

[TheEarlOfMoray]

Use oskar here. A week after weed spray. Works very well. A lot cheaper than axial as well