Wild oats in Spring Barley

czechmate

Member
Mixed Farmer
We no longer use axial, the wild oats just laugh at it , foxtrot gives good control.


A ball ace when you only have a SP...

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Bogweevil

Member
When you see simple incorrect things like that on the label, it then makes one wonder if they've got all the technical stuff right.

In the eyes of the law an SP sprayer is a 'specialised spraying tractor' as a telehandler is a 'materials handling tractor' - there is probably a required phrase in the CRD lebelling handbook, but I cannot find it.
 
Suspect that if the product was applied late, the tillers that were present at the time got a real headache but others may have emerged from the (relatively mature) crown from meristematic tissue in the crown. I am sure I read somewhere that ACCase products don't seem able to pass through the crown well.

I used to use Axial at reduced rates early on and always had good control.
 

neilo

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
but you cant justify letting woats taking hold, one years seeds 7 years weeds. been rouging today.

Surely more than 7 years? We’ve been here ) years and have used Axial every year as previous tenant liked to feed wild oats to his sheep (we have wild oats in fields that had never been ploughed previously, but had sheep being fed on them!). We still have them coming up thick if we ever leave a control strip, and in the beet currently there are loads screaming for a drink of a Falcon.
 

bobk

Member
Location
stafford
Surely more than 7 years? We’ve been here ) years and have used Axial every year as previous tenant liked to feed wild oats to his sheep (we have wild oats in fields that had never been ploughed previously, but had sheep being fed on them!). We still have them coming up thick if we ever leave a control strip, and in the beet currently there are loads screaming for a drink of a Falcon.
Got a field here we've been after for 30 years , it was grass from time in memorium
 
Location
Morayshire
Surely more than 7 years? We’ve been here ) years and have used Axial every year as previous tenant liked to feed wild oats to his sheep (we have wild oats in fields that had never been ploughed previously, but had sheep being fed on them!). We still have them coming up thick if we ever leave a control strip, and in the beet currently there are loads screaming for a drink of a Falcon.
80 years they can stay dormant for I think
 

jh.

Member
Location
fife
I've got a few pretty bad fields for oats . Both a mix of wilds and imported tame from dung . I missed rogueing for a few years due to working away from home , a knackered back one year then recovering from a back op the next . In 2018 I started to rogue one real bad field but gave up given the numbers . In 2019 I sprayed axial but left one tram just to see the difference . The barley canopy looked nice and clean while in the single tram I got 2 or 3 rogued bags , so was glad I sprayed rest .

This year due to very patchy spring barley emergence I didn't axial . Rogueing this year and in that single tram I only got about 8 oats , while the axial stuff is worse than ever , in fact a few patches have now been round upped rather than even try to hand rogue them .

I'm thinking the axial bumps off the early main shoot but let's plant spit out a tiller that stays below the barley canopy which doesn't get seen but blown out back of combine .
 

Brisel

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Midlands
What rate of Axial, water volume, adjuvants and growth stage was it applied at please? I do Axial Pro at T2 and wonder if I’m getting the spray down to the bottom of the canopy well enough. There always seems to be a late flush coming up through the crop.
 

7610 super q

Never Forgotten
Honorary Member
Axial .. rate .600 / ha, 55%, 200L/ ha, GS 30 this year.
4th year on the trot I've done this field ( I only need to do one field ), 2 years squeaky clean, 2 years I've had to follow up rogueing. Little farty things are difficult to spot, and pull up.
 

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