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Danllan

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The bleeding obvious route, which the FT mentioned / leaked today, was suggested a long time ago and keeps the yanks happy and the Chinese, i.e. Huawei can provide non-critical infrastructure but the remainder is supplied by a reliable Western source.

We want good terms with the US and China and this gets that, provides an economically sensible alternative and doesn't prejudice security.
 

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The bleeding obvious route, which the FT mentioned / leaked today, was suggested a long time ago and keeps the yanks happy and the Chinese, i.e. Huawei can provide non-critical infrastructure but the remainder is supplied by a reliable Western source.

We want good terms with the US and China and this gets that, provides an economically sensible alternative and doesn't prejudice security.
That's how they'll sell it but in reality I'm not so sure any equipment that is untrustworthy at any point in the core network is a good idea. Having said that though, there is a lot of huawei in homes and on the network already.
 

Danllan

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That's how they'll sell it but in reality I'm not so sure any equipment that is untrustworthy at any point in the core network is a good idea. Having said that though, there is a lot of huawei in homes and on the network already.
It is how they'll sell it, and I think it is how it is.

But, I can't claim any more than a superficial knowledge of the subject; I've a chum who works in IT for telecoms and is helping in setting up new networks in the Middle East at the moment. He reckons that provided certain key assets are 'Huawei-free', there is no reason not to use its kit elsewhere; he did explain this to me properly, but I was lost or bored - or both - after the first few sentences.

However, we're going for a drink later this week so I'll ask him to explain it again, but this time in simpler terms that I can use to explain it to my oldest boy... :angelic:
 

Exfarmer

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Knowing very little of the internet, however I do know one thing, if you use acertain model of gaming equipment, that their is at least one man in the world who can know exactly what you are doing!
I know that man well.
if he knows I guess there are others in his organisation who know as well, this comes down to timing, key strokes and lots of personal info . I can assure you he is very discrete and as I suspect this info refers to spotty teenage geeks would be of little use to any security service :):):)
 

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Outrage as Swiss trainmaker Stadler awarded contract for Tyne and Wear Metro

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Wednesday January 29 2020, 12.01am, The Times
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Local Conservative MPs and union officials described the decision to rule out Hitachi, a local bidder, as “terrible and appalling”

Local Conservative MPs and union officials described the decision to rule out Hitachi, a local bidder, as “terrible and appalling”
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Days before Britain leaves the European Union, the Department for Transport has spent £337 million of taxpayers’ money for new trains for the Tyne and Wear Metro to be built overseas.

Rather than have the rolling stock made near by at Newton Aycliffe, the British home of Hitachi Rail, it will be built 900 miles away by Stadler, the Swiss trainmaker.

The decision left the Unite union and local politicians fuming. Ben Houchen, Conservative mayor of Tees Valley, called it a “terrible and appalling decision” that “fails to protect a major North East business and local jobs”.


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Pat McCourt, a local Unite officer, said: “This is the first test of the government to shape up and protect UK manufacturing. Unless the government takes immediate action, the UK is at real risk of losing key parts of its manufacturing sector and the vital jobs and skills that are linked with it.”


The decision is a huge blow for the Hitachi factory, which is short of work and had been shortlisted for the £362 million contract. Hitachi cut 250 jobs, 30 per cent of its workforce, this month at its factory in Co Durham, which went into production only five years ago.

Having come to the end of large contracts to supply new trains for the Great Western and London & North Eastern lines, Newton Aycliffe would have run out of work this year but for an order for rolling stock for East Midlands Trains.
Labour lost five seats in the area to the Tories at the general election last month — Sedgefield, Redcar, Darlington, Stockton South and Bishop Auckland — after Boris Johnson promised to get Brexit done.
Stadler supplied trains to the small Merseyrail network from 2016 and won an order for 58 trains for Greater Anglia. However, they have been breaking down and are blamed for delays on the London-Ipswich-Norwich line.
The transport department declined to comment. A spokesman for Tyne and Wear Metro said that Stadler would be using companies in the UK manufacturing supply chain to provide parts for its trains.
 

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Tumble in UK car output 'a grave concern', says trade body

Which car industry is more in need of a Free Trade Agreement between EU and UK. Germany, I recall Leave folk waxing lyrical that BMW and AUDI would turn the ear of Mrs Merkel and thus the EU, or the UK industry. Is Mr Johnson's ear for turning.

And what is the view of Professor Mitford. Fascinating times.
 

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