Will Food Rationing happen in U.K.?

[yellow belly]

i think scheduled power cuts / gas / fuel rationing will happen

food will be ok ………… just a LOT more expensive

Provided farmers get fuel


at Least now that food farming and forestry are the only businesses allowed to use red there should be no need for red diesel rationing
may need better security though

 

[yellow belly]

To get back on topic,does anyone know exactly how much commodity/food is available worldwide,particularly from the Southern hemisphere? There are a few threads on the Forum now,about how this is going to pan out,all with the view that food will be short.How much extra wheat/maize/soya is available from the USA,Canada, Argentina,Brazil,Australia to make up the shortfall from Ukraine/Russia? Likewise Beef,Pork,Poultry? Presumably the Government has the Stats and done the sums.It is more than likely Eustace and Co will have the view like Margaret Beckett had, saying "The World is awash with food"..........................................Just what Goldsmiths,Dimbleby,Carrie Antoinette etc want to hear.............................................Job done for them..................Just carry on planting trees,with the added advantage of no nasty fertilisers and chemicals spread on the land.

USDA produce stats on world production stocks and usage the accuracy is often debated
the weather and eventual yield is a big variation that reduces accuracy which ALL non agriculturalists can never fully comprehend

over 2 billion tonnes of grains most is consumed close to production
but Ukraine and Russia supply a significant percentage of the export traded tonnage

the world production is more or less predicted to match consumption provided Ukraine and Russia exports
the biggest issue could be logistics a ship from Australia or the USA to North Africa or the Middle East take a lot longer than the Black Sea so more ships needs in a world where there were not enough prior to the Russian invasion

 

[spin cycle]

Gettin rid of the sheep?

gotta catch em first

 

[betweenthelines]

Anyone food shortages in the World today are due to "local" problems, usually extreme climate issues such as drought or Government failings.


Food will always go to those that can pay for it. And we in the West can pay for it.

 

[roscoe erf]

Meanwhile, elsewhere........

Germans allow over one million hectares of greening land to enter production

The German federal minister for agriculture revealed a series of actions intended on easing feed cost and supply concerns.

www.farmersjournal.ie

They’ve got it right

 

[Pan mixer]

Not just a pretty face are you?

But now he farms pigs so something has gone very wrong

 

[spin cycle]

But now he farms pigs so something has gone very wrong

i was thinking that...'nuclear boffin' to 'pig farmer' WTF

 

[wanton dwarf]

Probably a reduced selection of food in the Super Markets this year combined with significant food price increases.

But everything will be increasing in price this year, if fuel is rationed then expect large increases in prices.

Next years harvest may well bring starvation for parts of the world.

If Russia holds back 30% of world food supplies then all hell will break lose. But don't expect UK media to catch on until it's well too late.

 

[Still Farming]

i think covid has shown us what can be done when we REALLY need to. - the vaccination program was remarkable

there is hope !

Minus China bit is it?

 

[andybk]

Sheep will be ok , hardly any grain / fert needed here or NZ / aus as long as stocking rates arnt high , be a huge export market to middle east long term , when the pigs poultry dry up due to price of grain

 

[spin cycle]

Sheep will be ok , hardly any grain / fert needed here or NZ / aus as long as stocking rates arnt high , be a huge export market to middle east long term , when the pigs poultry dry up due to price of grain

oddly i'm thinking opposite......china has rebuilt it's pig herd + cheaper russian wheat = boatloads of kiwi lamb redirected here

here's hoping you're right and i'm wrong

 

[Billboy1]

i honestly think now more than ever in light of recent events we need a government that recognises that we need to get to be as much as we can be self sufficient in food and energy and not rely on anyone else . if they don't realise it now they never will

 

[holwellcourtfarm]

i honestly think now more than ever in light of recent events we need a government that recognises that we need to get to be as much as we can be self sufficient in food and energy and not rely on anyone else . if they don't realise it now they never will

I can't help wondering what Margaret Beckett thinks about food security these days.......

 

[More to life]

I can't help wondering what Margaret Beckett thinks about food security these days.......

She was no worse than the current lot.

 

[kiwi pom]

oddly i'm thinking opposite......china has rebuilt it's pig herd + cheaper russian wheat = boatloads of kiwi lamb redirected here

here's hoping you're right and i'm wrong

Getting boats to take product away is still an issue here. When they do come, they want more money making shipping costs very high.
We're only just getting going with Covid so large parts of the processing work force are off sick, hopefully that won't be for too long.
World dairy prices are high because volumes are down, so there's already a bit of a shortage.
Many farms don't have enough staff for harvest due to border restrictions (opening up now though) and the weather hasn't been that good for the grain, small seeds and onion harvest.
The PM is more interested in being green than producing anything.
Other than that things are fine

 

[jendan]

She was no worse than the current lot.

That Elliot Morley was a nasty piece of work.Read the riot act to farmers about over claiming for the SFP when it started,and then was found guilty himself of fiddling his expenses.

 

[glasshouse]

I can't help wondering what Margaret Beckett thinks about food security these days.......

That would infer there is a brain in there somewhere
I think not

 

[Yale]

I can't help wondering what Margaret Beckett thinks about food security these days.......

She’ll be more bothered about the price of fuel to drag her caravan……

 

[Steevo]

Getting boats to take product away is still an issue here. When they do come, they want more money making shipping costs very high.
We're only just getting going with Covid so large parts of the processing work force are off sick, hopefully that won't be for too long.
World dairy prices are high because volumes are down, so there's already a bit of a shortage.
Many farms don't have enough staff for harvest due to border restrictions (opening up now though) and the weather hasn't been that good for the grain, small seeds and onion harvest.
The PM is more interested in being green than producing anything.
Other than that things are fine

Enough about the UK….how are things in your neck of the woods?!

 

[Global ovine]

oddly i'm thinking opposite......china has rebuilt it's pig herd + cheaper russian wheat = boatloads of kiwi lamb redirected here

here's hoping you're right and i'm wrong

I think you are quite wrong.
Sirma Karapeeva (head of NZ of NZ Meat Processors/Exporters Assn.) stated on the farming radio programme "The Country" today that the last year Jan to Jan NZ export volumes (near equal mix of sheep meat and beef) has risen by 25% to China, up 32% to USA and up 70% to Japan. This is in spite of more relatively cheaper frozen product to chilled shifted due to shipping problems and lack of timely refrigerated containers available when required due to global pandemic disruption.
Unless the UK buyers can outbid the 3 mentioned above, I would think NZ small legs (traditionally the most numerous item) will be very scarce in UK shop chillers.

The rebuild of the Chinese pig herd has a long way to go as only some regions are now clear of African Swine Fever. However cheap grain from Russia may become available as no other nation will be buying excluding North Korea.