- Location
- Lancashire
Got 4t of 18% lamb finisher last week for 235pt, not sure what next lot will be
Will sheep cake be £300 a ton at lambing
- Thread starter New holland
- Start date
davidroberts30
Member
- Location
- pembrokeshire
Feeding my own barley last year was dearer than buying 18% rationJust so long as they don’t start costing in those cereals for less than they can put it on a lorry for, as is usually the case with these arguments.
by the time i got the barley to 18%
- Location
- Montgomeryshire
Feeding my own barley last year was dearer than buying 18% ration
Whenever I've worked it out, there wasn't much in it once you put your time in. Then of course the need to use troughs...
I sell my barley and buy the small amount of feed I use. It might be different for those using big quantities, where the couple of quid a ton savings might add up to something meaningful.
davidroberts30
Member
- Location
- pembrokeshire
The barley,rapemeal,urea and milln mix was 220 and grub was just over 200
Chasingmytail
Member
- Location
- Newport, SE Wales
we don't feed ours - grassfed. Yes takes longer and some sh!t looking samples but stuffing stock with grain is too expensive for the return for us. We are also organic making a tonne around 450/500. Just not worth it. If we could get our hands on organic barley that would be good but no one interested unless its a wagon load. Happy to collect some if its within an hour or so.
You cant have worked it out right,in the past there have been enormous savings to be made home mixing,and there certainly will be this year.I know there are costs involved and you need to look at it long term,eg a static meal mixer will last at least 25 years,getting a mobile mill in is easy enough,what other costs do you have? Mixed farming ,back to the future...
Adam@Rumen
Member
- Location
- Nantwich/Rishton
It's going to be dear due to raw materials, no doubt about it.
Proteins have been easing back but with the closure of the Vivergo plant prices are about to go balistic, mid proteins especially. Wheat may come back to be fair for the same reason, but it starts at pretty hefty levels.
The best thing you can do is price around. Taking half an hour to make a few phone calls and get prices could save you thousands. Make sure you get a label/analysis not just headline figures so you can see what the raw materials are like - if you aren't sure what you should be looking for post up on here, there's a lot of knowledgable folk who will help out.
Proteins have been easing back but with the closure of the Vivergo plant prices are about to go balistic, mid proteins especially. Wheat may come back to be fair for the same reason, but it starts at pretty hefty levels.
The best thing you can do is price around. Taking half an hour to make a few phone calls and get prices could save you thousands. Make sure you get a label/analysis not just headline figures so you can see what the raw materials are like - if you aren't sure what you should be looking for post up on here, there's a lot of knowledgable folk who will help out.
- Location
- Dumfries & Galloway
Very little waste actually. I've had a snacker the last 2 winters, which have both been bloody awful weather wise. Very impressed how the ewes pick up every bit of grain.
Weasel
Member
- Location
- in the hills
Northeastfarmer
Member
- Location
- Cleveland
Half the cake you buy is full of bakery waste....at least with home mix you know what you’re putting in
- Location
- Dumfries & Galloway
Or at least buy the straights, mixed. I wouldn't look at a 'ewe pellet'.
Dave6170
Member
- Location
- Watten, caithness
We get plauged with seagulls doing that.
Plain steer
Member
Cearial screenings currently 42 pounds per ton, but their getting very hard to get hold of because lorry driver said theirs a lot going into feed mills to make into cake at 250 a ton
we have 300 ewes in the business and 60 of my own as a separate entity, we run the 2 flocks in parallel, same input / treatments / feed etc and graze separate across 4 holdings, this year were considering going back to a high energy liquid molasses soaked into the haylage bales as an alternative.
gimmers will be boluses, fed a small amount of oats in the colder months, but otherwise on hay and fodderbeet rather than cake and buckets - keep them ticking along.
quoted £241 for lamb finisher today, predicted to go up £40 by Christmas, so £300 for a good ewe cake is probably true.
with buckets at £600+ and cake at £240+ nows the time to consider winter feeding!
gimmers will be boluses, fed a small amount of oats in the colder months, but otherwise on hay and fodderbeet rather than cake and buckets - keep them ticking along.
quoted £241 for lamb finisher today, predicted to go up £40 by Christmas, so £300 for a good ewe cake is probably true.
with buckets at £600+ and cake at £240+ nows the time to consider winter feeding!
Hilly
Member
- Location
- Scottish Borders.
They look nicer and are cheap to keep , but i have both and know which my bank prefers and it aint the sooothies/
- Location
- Montgomeryshire
Not that there’s necessarily anything wrong with bakery waste at low inclusion rates, but I won’t buy compound without knowing what’s in it. Consequently, I know what i’m ‘Putting in’ too.
As for anything else, if you don’t trust your supplier, don’t give them your business.
Northeastfarmer
Member
- Location
- Cleveland
This is true, but I’m buying barley sugar beet and soya anyway so I can soon make my own blend for the sheep
- Location
- Welshpool Powys
Don’t need to ask me - if you want one just start it !
If it’s popular then it can become a slcky thread maybe