Will they get the job done

Hindsight

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Lincolnshire
As a committed remainer, I recognise that our goose has been shot, plucked and probably been eaten.
if the liberals had seen any sort of revival, there would have been an argument to continue, but there was no such thing.
The best thing in my point of view from last night is that the country has got behind Boris and given Labour a very good kicking, they deserved it with their leadership.
I fear it will need another kicking to remove the Marxist hydra currently in charge, cutting off the head will only being about another probably harder left Mcdonell .
I will certainly put all, into working for a positive move forward for agriculture in the UK, recognising that this is certainly going to be outside the EU


Liberal Democrats share of the national vote increased I heard on the radio this morning but have not checked the websites for details. Just sayin.
 
Why wouldn’t you at the very least he promised us a vote
Am I understanding you correctly?
Labour votes should all be classed as remain?

In a constituency like this, a Tory safe seat there was no Brexit party Candidate so any strong labour supporter who also backed leave would have had to vote Tory to support leave but I’m sure many wouldn’t vote Tory at any price and will have voted labour, knowing their vote wouldn’t affect the outcome of the election but will have voted labour anyway.

Of course it’s only arguing technicalities as I’m sure not all Tory voters backed leave either
 

neilo

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
Liberal Democrats share of the national vote increased I heard on the radio this morning but have not checked the websites for details. Just sayin.

I think that’s right, but not by enough to make them particularly credible, but at least that awful Swinson woman has gone.

The result looks like a strong Leave vote which, had that been the case at the ref, would have saved all the years of dithering this way & that. It needs doing now, but properly, and hopefully without the ERG pushing their ‘no-deal’ extremism.

Labour will regroup and rebrand, as they did after the last time they were heavily defeated with a hard left mandate. Corbyn is going, and will take all his comrades with him, and another ‘Blair’ will step up to try to appeal to the centre.

I still haven’t changed my view that Boris is a dishonest slug of a man and no statesman, but hey, he’s a politician.
 
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S J H

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Bedfordshire
Sadly I think we will have to recognise that Scotland is coming to the parting of the ways, as I suspect NI will too , with a sea border.
expect eventually that will lead to calls for Wales to leave to if Scotland makes a success.
the big issue is how long the EU will last in its present form without us. It has certainly been the making of Ireland, if Scotland follows suit who knows.

Has it really been the making of Ireland? I thought it was in a bit of trouble a few years ago?
 
I think that’s right, but not by enough to make them particularly credible, but at least that awful Swinson woman has gone.

The result looks like a strong Leave vote which, had that been the case at the ref, would have saved all the years of dithering this way & that. It needs doing now, but properly, and hopefully with the ERG pushing their ‘no-deal’ extremism.

Labour will regroup and rebrand, as they did after the last time they were heavily defeated with a hard left mandate. Corbyn is going, and will take all his comrades with him, and another ‘Blair’ will step up to try to appeal to the centre.

I still haven’t changed my view that Boris is a dishonest slug of a man and no statesman, but hey, he’s a politician.
You really should read before hitting reply, that reads as you want an ERG style Brexit

As for Borris, I’ll let time tell what sort of PM he makes, he’s got enough of backing now so hasn’t really got any excuses.
 

Scribus

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Location
Central Atlantic
Has it really been the making of Ireland? I thought it was in a bit of trouble a few years ago?

It is true that the EU has spent a lot of money here, just as the UK has done in the north, but European institurtions have also done their very best to screw Ireland as well, saddling this country with a huge debt to the save the banking system being the most obvious example.
 

S J H

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Bedfordshire
It is true that the EU has spent a lot of money here, just as the UK has done in the north, but European institurtions have also done their very best to screw Ireland as well, saddling this country with a huge debt to the save the banking system being the most obvious example.
Have they spent more than you've put in though?
 

som farmer

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Livestock Farmer
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somerset
the EU have been in the driving seat, since the referendum, due to the amount of backstabbing, delaying tactics, and the lack of a majority in parliament, and have played their hand very well, even yesterday, barnier was saying it would take years to sort a trade deal. That has changed beyond belief, the UK now has a solid mandate to negotiate, which, I suspect, much to the EU's horror. They had, as an aim, the desire to show the remaining members of the EU how difficult, and divisive, and economically how hard it is to leave. The behavior of our MP's has been disgusting, they (some) simply ignored the vote, in the referendum, to pursue their own agenda, and this result reflects that. This election was focussed on 2 main issues, Corbyn and Brexit, and the result represented that, all I hope, is we can all move on, get Brexit done, get on with the other important issues that need to be sorted, and have been left on hold while Brexit has paralysed. Please let Boris, get on, and do this.
 

JohnBoy

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If there's going to be another Scottish independance vote for f*cks sake can ye learn something from this debacle.


Define what the hell it is ye are actually voting on before the referendum, not afterwards.



Has it really been the making of Ireland? I thought it was in a bit of trouble a few years ago?

Oh god yeah. The best thing to happen to this country (after you lot left) Our troubles were pretty much entirely self inflicted. No one made us go nuts on coke and hookers. It's always fun to blame the outsider, but most independent countries problems stem from within.
 
Am I understanding you correctly?
Labour votes should all be classed as remain?

In a constituency like this, a Tory safe seat there was no Brexit party Candidate so any strong labour supporter who also backed leave would have had to vote Tory to support leave but I’m sure many wouldn’t vote Tory at any price and will have voted labour, knowing their vote wouldn’t affect the outcome of the election but will have voted labour anyway.

Of course it’s only arguing technicalities as I’m sure not all Tory voters backed leave either
Yes just watched professor John Curtis much respected pollster say as much. He went further and said currently there is a small majority for remain in this country
 

SFI - What % were you taking out of production?

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    Votes: 79 42.5%
  • Up to 25%

    Votes: 65 34.9%
  • 25-50%

    Votes: 30 16.1%
  • 50-75%

    Votes: 3 1.6%
  • 75-100%

    Votes: 3 1.6%
  • 100% I’ve had enough of farming!

    Votes: 6 3.2%

Red Tractor drops launch of green farming scheme amid anger from farmers

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As reported in Independent


quote: “Red Tractor has confirmed it is dropping plans to launch its green farming assurance standard in April“

read the TFF thread here: https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/gfc-was-to-go-ahead-now-not-going-ahead.405234/
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