Will they get the job done

DRC

Member
I disagree. UK agriculture has a bright future. It will just be a very different type of agriculture where producers nourish their environment and scorn ineffective cost. The agricultural input industry ought to be quaking in its boots.

Huge change is coming to a rural area near you (and me)......
Not sure if that’s true. Look out for even more AD plants ( it’s green energy after all ), that I can grow wall to wall maize and Rye for .
 

Scribus

Member
Location
Central Atlantic
Funny, I saw a response from the EU on BBC News this morning. It was congratulating the oaf and saying they were ready to resume the negotiations.

Missed that, I just went out and did a non too thorough search and didn't come up with anything. Having said that it sounds more like an oven ready soundbite rather than a considered opinion.
 

holwellcourtfarm

Member
Livestock Farmer
Not sure if that’s true. Look out for even more AD plants ( it’s green energy after all ), that I can grow wall to wall maize and Rye for .
If the new environment act has any real basis in fact then the current trend to grow feedstock crops for AD will cease. It makes no sense on soil health grounds or energy return on energy investment grounds. It's greenwash IMHO, like calling the electricity from DRAX "green" when the wood burnt comes from the USA.

Sorry (I know you grow such crops).
 

holwellcourtfarm

Member
Livestock Farmer
In the UK the general trend is reducing slowly. I would think other European countries are equally parsimonious. The big consumers are Russia, Australia and the USA.
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Still Farming

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
South Wales UK
The EU just came out and claimed they will be carbon neutral by 2050.

They will of course either be knobbling their quality of life, their competitiveness or be merely exporting the problem or using 'carbon credits' if they do this.

We need to make the poorest 20% of the world a heck of a lot richer and give them access to cheap energy as well. Do that and their birth rates will decline, their populations will plateau and more importantly they won't be so reliant on doing daft things to earn a shilling.

The ONLY way is global trade so that all can prosper. Energy use in most of the Western world is declining over time due to improved technology and efficiency gains anyway. We need to access more advanced renewable technologies or seriously poke investment into nuclear power and we will be two-thirds of the way there.

A fat Westerner can buy a more fuel efficient SUV all he likes and claim he is saving the world but my concern is for the millions of people world wide who don't even have access to a tenth of what we do in the West.
Think eu will be carbon neutral at a later date now the cleanest in leaving?
 

bobk

Member
Location
stafford
I've always voted Conservatives until now, Labour let the country down by not fielding a person electable even given the exttent of how distasteful Bojo and there gang are! They should have brought back David Miliband. Like many, its our democratic right to change our mind - holding a second referendum would have gone along way towards consolidating the decision either way and help bring the country back together, to move towards leaving or remaining. To claim otherwise is complete nonsense, but that time has now gone.

Our collective governments over the years have blamed the EU for all of their worldly problems, another year and there will be no one to point fingers at accept home grown ineptitude. There is no more corruption in the EU than anywhere else, our MP's included. How naive the public has become to believe in pipe dreams.

You're on drugs presumably , we live in a tiny hamlet in the Vienne , corruption is rife .... only way to make money in france
 

graham99

Member
Sadly I think we will have to recognise that Scotland is coming to the parting of the ways, as I suspect NI will too , with a sea border.
expect eventually that will lead to calls for Wales to leave to if Scotland makes a success.
the big issue is how long the EU will last in its present form without us. It has certainly been the making of Ireland, if Scotland follows suit who knows.
you will never leave
 

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