Will we be ploughing for re seeding in the future?

[Bury the Trash]

And the ploughed one View attachment 966785

yeah ex spud ground can be a challenge to manage.

 

[som farmer]

yeah ex spud ground can be a challenge to manage.

total agreement, we let a block, every year, moving around the farm, that became, can we have a maize crop first, then spuds, followed by wheat, to utilise the excess fert from the spuds ! The result, soil structure destroyed, weed seeds resurrected, plough pan to sort out, nightmare, and extremely glad we stopped.

 

[Bury the Trash]

total agreement, we let a block, every year, moving around the farm, that became, can we have a maize crop first, then spuds, followed by wheat, to utilise the excess fert from the spuds ! The result, soil structure destroyed, weed seeds resurrected, plough pan to sort out, nightmare, and extremely glad we stopped.

Yes.

But What i meant as well, is also that Derek is being a bit crafty about the photos he is showing as comparisons.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Yes.

But What i meant as well, is also that Derek is being a bit crafty about the photos he is showing as comparisons.

My potatoes are planted with a small Massey with a Ridger and not harvested so I cants see that there will be a lot of soil damage ,
What photos do you want to see that Kim Jong Derrick is Hiding
[emoji1783]

 

[Sid]

My potatoes are planted with a small Massey with a Ridger and not harvested so I cants see that there will be a lot of soil damage ,
What photos do you want to see that Kim Jong Derrick is Hiding
[emoji1783]

Damage is done long before the ridger

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Damage is done long before the ridger

With the Plough ?

Sprayed with roundup to kill docks , ploughed , power harrow then drill , not a lot different to your re,seeding then , if the weather is kind in the Autumn will bang some Westerwolds in as a winter cover

 

[Sid]

With the Plough ?

Sprayed with roundup to kill docks , ploughed , power harrow then drill , not a lot different to your re,seeding then , if the weather is kind in the Autumn will bang some Westerwolds in as a winter cover

I don't preach that ploughing is bad

 

[Derrick Hughes]

I don't preach that ploughing is bad

I never said you did .
Progress is looking for better ways , sometimes it's a dead end but it should not stop anyone trying

 

[Sid]

I never said you did .
Progress is looking for better ways , sometimes it's a dead end but it should not stop anyone trying

the environmental damage of returining to the plough ,

Never

Every day is a school day

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Never

Every day is a school day

I never said you did. Can't you read

 

[Sid]

I never said you did. Can't you read

You said there wouldn't be much soil damage by the ridger.
I said the damage was done when it was ploughed.
You said it wasn't much different than ploughing to reseed, a operation you have said is bad, but it's OK for £££.

Ploughing has its place ,given its a once in maybe 5 years, probably 10 or never in some fields.
That must be better than spraying off , making the soil lifeless by killing all food sources and direct drilling every 2,3, or 5 years?

 

[Derrick Hughes]

You said there wouldn't be much soil damage by the ridger.
I said the damage was done when it was ploughed.
You said it wasn't much different than ploughing to reseed, a operation you have said is bad, but it's OK for £££.

Ploughing has its place ,given its a once in maybe 5 years, probably 10 or never in some fields.
That must be better than spraying off , making the soil lifeless by killing all food sources and direct drilling every 2,3, or 5 years?

Your allowed your opinion, don't make it right or wrong , neither does mine, for potatoes and some other situations I can't see any option but ploughing , yes for £ . Is than not why we are in business ,
We have the top site in Europe for blight trials , I hope some UK farmers benefit from the work that's being going on for many years here

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Trying new seeder today

 

[Bury the Trash]

Trying new seeder today View attachment 967131

Tractors way too big

 

[som farmer]

Tractors way too big

think l would agree with that, our p/t help has bought a ford dexter, which is in our yard, it's tiny, and yet, we used to get all the work done, with similar, scary looking back.
Are the einbok tines/drill going into worked ground, or scratching in ? The first works well, the scratching didn't work here, at all, and l would suggest a proper d/d would work better. Nor would l dare to sow grass, at this time of year, to dry, but perhaps it's rape, or similar.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

think l would agree with that, our p/t help has bought a ford dexter, which is in our yard, it's tiny, and yet, we used to get all the work done, with similar, scary looking back.
Are the einbok tines/drill going into worked ground, or scratching in ? The first works well, the scratching didn't work here, at all, and l would suggest a proper d/d would work better. Nor would l dare to sow grass, at this time of year, to dry, but perhaps it's rape, or similar.

I sowed some a week ago and it's coming up, it's monsoon climate here , that tractor is it smallest he's got [emoji1787]
To stoney for a direct drill

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Tractors way too big

Are you ever happy [emoji1787]

 

[ollie989898]

Those tined seeder jobs work a treat if you are sowing into bare worked soil.

 

[som farmer]

I sowed some a week ago and it's coming up, it's monsoon climate here , that tractor is it smallest he's got [emoji1787]
To stoney for a direct drill

we are a dry farm, historically spring reseeds are 'iffy', though early, as in march, early april, odds are better.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

5years work on that block . Finished off today