Will

[multi power]

A good close solicitor will sort out the mistakes which are so easily inserted. Such as splitting


So you are saying that you would pay money to a man/ woman you know is lieing to you?
My solicitor told me his job was to always put the best gloss on any situation in court, but never to lie.

Isn't it a solicitor's job to get his guilty client off in court?
Not exactly a lot of honesty there

 

[Danllan]

Isn't it a solicitor's job to get his guilty client off in court?
Not exactly a lot of honesty there

From a position of professional ethics, a Barrister's first duty is always to the Court, a solicitor's is always to his client. (Things may have changed, I don't think so, but that certainly was the case when I was working)

 

[Old Boar]

One other thing to remember when you make a will is to tell someone where it is. I lodged mine with the solicitor who helped write it. Three days later I was on life support. The two are not connected, but my children did not know I had made a will so it could have been overlooked.

 

[Still Farming]

One other thing to remember when you make a will is to tell someone where it is. I lodged mine with the solicitor who helped write it. Three days later I was on life support. The two are not connected, but my children did not know I had made a will so it could have been overlooked.

Plus if they retire or company/firm sells out to another and then what happens with all these "held will's", that the new firm/company most likley have never known or met ???

 

[Dry Rot]

One of the first things you will learn as a pupil Barrister is that you don't try and bullsh*t in Court. It will be guaranteed that, regardless of the subject, listening to what you say will be an expert on it just itching to make you look stupid.

As for other Counsel and Judges, the old adage applies 'Don't try and bullshi*t a bullsh*tter...'

Absolutely right! I knew a sound recordist (in Scotland) who announced that he was travelling down to Gloucestershire to record the song of a chaffinch. I was amazed! Then he explained that the recording was for a BBC TV nature program and that chaffinches have regional accents and if he didn't get it right, someone would notice! Sorry, totally irrelevant except that the above post reminded me! Someone WILL notice!

 

[Frodo2]

Isn't it a solicitor's job to get his guilty client off in court?
Not exactly a lot of honesty there

I think that is a fairly simplistic generalisation. As many others have said it is to represent him. Telling lies in court just looks silly and gets you into a deeper hole.

While lawyers are not my favourite bunch and i am dubious about some advice my family has recieved I find the general view of some posters that they are all corrupt rather sad.

 

[M-J-G]

Sorry but 18 is too yoing to be left in control of a reasonably sized ag business with 500k worth of debt. Add another 8-10 years onto that.

Correct, obviously there are exceptions to every rule, but most folks under 30 generally still have too much to learn about life.

Even in cases like the military or larger trading companies where the work force are young, those further up the tree are usually more mature.

 

[Roger Perry]

My attorney once told me it was the 98% of dis-honest lawyers who got the other 2% a bad name..!!

 

[db9go]

My attorney once told me it was the 98% of dis-honest lawyers who got the other 2% a bad name..!!

That is about the nearest you will get to them telling the truth.
The hard part is finding the 2%

 

[Walterp]

From a position of professional ethics, a Barrister's first duty is always to the Court, a solicitor's is always to his client. (Things may have changed, I don't think so, but that certainly was the case when I was working)

In actual fact both solicitor's and counsel's over-riding duty is to the Court, hence their status as officers of the Court. It has always been thus in England and Wales.

Every law student would know this.

Are you sure you have ever practised?

Let's have some details, please. Because this slip suggests, to me, that you have exaggerated your position.

 

[Danllan]

ATTENTION ALL, ATTENTION ALL!

In actual fact both solicitor's and counsel's over-riding duty is to the Court, hence their status as officers of the Court. It has always been thus in England and Wales.

Every law student would know this.

Are you sure you have ever practised?

Let's have some details, please. Because this slip suggests, to me, that you have exaggerated your position.

Oh dear, oh dear Wallykins, you have slipped up and revealed yourself as even more of a prat than usual. Yet again you write from ignorance, so you have now established yourself as a prig, a hypocrite and a thicky.

Barristers are not officers of the Court, as anyone who has completed the BVC and pupillage does know. (And I would have thought that even solicitors would know)

Sure you are now or ever were competent to practice? Solicitors have a duty not to mislead, don't they?

See the link below, from the Bar Council, Section 21 subsection d. Its an adjunct to the Bar Council's Code of Conduct, it is current and has not been superseded as far as I am aware.

http://www.barcouncil.org.uk/media/375194/undertakings_-_final__june_2015_.pdf

Self-righteous idiot that you are, surely even you don't think you know more about Barristerial status than the Bar Council, do you?

Looks like you need to wind your neck in and catch up on the old CPE .

And, seeing as I have responded to your request as soon as I saw it, why don't you show some backbone and give us your immigration policy? Much better than carrying on as a contemptible little fellow.

 

[Y Fan Wen]

Isn't it a solicitor's job to get his guilty client off in court?
Not exactly a lot of honesty there

The client isn't guilty until the court makes its decision.

 

[brigadoon]

Our "family" solicitors wanted a 5 figure sum to sort my mum's will. Accountant did it for a quarter of the price.

I did use them for the purchase of a farm last year. They wasted 3 months as the conveyancing partner didn't realise part of the farm was in trust even though i told them.
And the icing on the cake was i was reading the dairy farmer about stamp duty and I worked out we had overpaid on stamp duty due to the rate changing during the purchase.

Are all solicitors the same @Walterp?

Not all solicitors are the same by any means I have had some positive experiences and some very negative.

I find that there tends to be a good deal of chaff amongst the wheat and would certainly recommend maintaining close supervision and no hesitation in changing firms if appropriate.

And definitely not as executors

 

[brigadoon]

I am very sad to hear such negative coments about solicitors. My solicitor of the last 30 years has been a great support giving mostly excelent advice and in my view was remarkably cheap when I sold my farm.
Choose a solicitor as a friend , take local advice and steer wide of these new chains who are really only interested in the bog standard house conveyance and divorce work

You really must be joking. Under no circumstances should you choose a friend as a solicitor. We had one around here who was a pillar of the community and very highly regarded by the farming community.

Got a free holiday in barlinnie for robbing the dead, otherwise known as executor work.

You had a positive experience and that is great, by all means recommend the firm. Don't assume it to be normal

 

[Still Farming]

Plenty of "Legal" crooks out there ???

 

[Danllan]

Plenty of "Legal" crooks out there ???

I have known of some, sadly; there are more legal 'idiots' than you might suspect, it is remarkable who can gain a legal qualification...

 

[Still Farming]

The more you know the more you don't want to know I find .
We all put our trust in different professions to do work we think their experts at -but time after time the only person that wants or does what you want , is yourself ???

 

[PSQ]

You have all made a Will, right?

Having put it off for years, finally did it today

There's something strangely satisfying knowing you can peg it without leaving a trail of chaos behind.

 

[Henarar]

Having put it off for years, finally did it today

There's something strangely satisfying knowing you can peg it without leaving a trail of chaos behind.

some may think it was satisfying to do just that

 

[alex04w]

ATTENTION ALL, ATTENTION ALL!


Oh dear, oh dear Wallykins, you have slipped up and revealed yourself as even more of a prat than usual. Yet again you write from ignorance, so you have now established yourself as a prig, a hypocrite and a thicky.

Barristers are not officers of the Court, as anyone who has completed the BVC and pupillage does know. (And I would have thought that even solicitors would know)

Sure you are now or ever were competent to practice? Solicitors have a duty not to mislead, don't they?

See the link below, from the Bar Council, Section 21 subsection d. Its an adjunct to the Bar Council's Code of Conduct, it is current and has not been superseded as far as I am aware.

http://www.barcouncil.org.uk/media/375194/undertakings_-_final__june_2015_.pdf

Self-righteous idiot that you are, surely even you don't think you know more about Barristerial status than the Bar Council, do you?

Looks like you need to wind your neck in and catch up on the old CPE .

And, seeing as I have responded to your request as soon as I saw it, why don't you show some backbone and give us your immigration policy? Much better than carrying on as a contemptible little fellow.

Only just getting to this thread, having been redirected here from one of the Brexit threads.

Anyone who has ever been in a Court room knows this basic difference between a solicitor and a barrister. A barrister cannot given an 'undertaking' to the Court to perform something. The barrister must defer to their instructing solicitor for the solicitor to give the undertaking. (I have even seen a barrister having to hand their mobile phone up to a Judge to show an e-mail from their instructing solicitor giving a required undertaking - the barristers word was not enough!)

Why is this - it is because only the solicitor is an 'officer of the Court'. Absolute basis legal knowledge.

Even those solicitors who have never seen the inside of a Court room, should know this. How does a contract for a house sale get completed. Does it turn into a 'snatch' affair as one side throws the keys as the they grab the signed contract? No, it is all done through solicitors undertakings - the honour and integrity of the solicitors being invoked to perform their promises.

For a solicitor not to know this is unbelievable. If a solicitor still had a practicing certificate and showed ignorance of this, and refused to concede they were wrong on the issue, they should be immediately referred to the Law Society for professional incompetence.