Will's No Till Diary

[SilliamWhale]

Winter barley and wheat had 120kg/ha of Urea today.

 

[Louis Mc]

Winter barley and wheat had 120kg/ha of Urea today.

You're getting better weather than we are so...

 

[SilliamWhale]

You're getting better weather than we are so...

Nah we just have the wind to dry things up

 

[d williams]

Nah we just have the wind to dry things up

What rate are you going to be putting the fym on at
With spreading after drilling do the wheeling a show up in crop
Needing to do something similar to grass field cattle been out wintered thinking of Cambridge rolling round up off muck spread possible gls subsoil then drill at different angle ?

 

[SilliamWhale]

What rate are you going to be putting the fym on at
With spreading after drilling do the wheeling a show up in crop
Needing to do something similar to grass field cattle been out wintered thinking of Cambridge rolling round up off muck spread possible gls subsoil then drill at different angle ?

Basically it depends. I don't think this year I'm going to get any on top of winter crops as it looks like growth is going to be too advanced and wheelings would show up. I usually give myself until about Gold Cup week before deciding and unlikely to spread after that - sometimes you get these dry weeks and sometimes not.

 

[SilliamWhale]

This is a marginal cropping field as it was permanent pasture for years. Will be sprayed off in 10 days after sheep and then drilled about mid april with barley.

Chicken muck on top in May

Quite a close time between roundup and drilling but will drill with AS down spout to get it going. Will be warmer by then too.

 

[d williams]

View attachment 482964This is a marginal cropping field as it was permanent pasture for years. Will be sprayed off in 10 days after sheep and then drilled about mid april with barley.

Chicken muck on top in May

Quite a close time between roundup and drilling but will drill with AS down spout to get it going. Will be warmer by then too.

A month between spaying and drilling be plenty wouldn't it?

 

[SilliamWhale]

A month between spaying and drilling be plenty wouldn't it?

Yeah

 

[quattro]

View attachment 482964This is a marginal cropping field as it was permanent pasture for years. Will be sprayed off in 10 days after sheep and then drilled about mid april with barley.

Chicken muck on top in May

Quite a close time between roundup and drilling but will drill with AS down spout to get it going. Will be warmer by then too.

I must have missed it somewhere but what drill are you using to drill into grass?

 

[SilliamWhale]

I must have missed it somewhere but what drill are you using to drill into grass?

Britains oldest JD750. Needs a rebuild this summer as the rows are getting a bit paired so the cutting angle is not so good

 

[SilliamWhale]

Broadway star on wheat today. First herbicide this has had. Few beans and broadleaves. Sticking broadway on to keep any brome at bay. If it stays spotless this may go to winter barley

 

[SilliamWhale]

Rounduping stubbles pre beans today. Sprayer new to me bit frustrating cant get boom low enough. 3.5l ha plus katalyst

By the way if conditions are a bit windier than you want it to be does spray pressure matter much ie should it go up or down a bit?

 

[Louis Mc]

View attachment 485628Rounduping stubbles pre beans today. Sprayer new to me bit frustrating cant get boom low enough. 3.5l ha plus katalyst

By the way if conditions are a bit windier than you want it to be does spray pressure matter much ie should it go up or down a bit?

Lower should help. Air induction nozzles transform a sprayer though very simply

 

[SilliamWhale]

Lower should help. Air induction nozzles transform a sprayer though very simply

Yeah got them too.

 

[SilliamWhale]

Still spraying off stubbles today. Using a bit of kyleo as an experiment to knock a bit of rbwh back. Interesting to see how it goes i find it dear for what it is and have also done some 24d and glyphosate mix as a comparison as well.

Much of the land looking a bit sad at the moment. Digging holes and all seems well but from the tractor land looks a bit desperate for sunshine.

 

[RTK Farmer]

If I've got some serious vegitation to go at I use 2 Kyleo + 2 glyphosate. It gives quicker knock down of BLWs, which is important before a broad leaved crop but check drilling intervals !

 

[Louis Mc]

What is kyleo? Does it do a job on oil radish?

 

[SilliamWhale]

What is kyleo? Does it do a job on oil radish?

Its a 24d and glyphosate mix. Apparently with some magic stuff in it to make it work together.

Costing me about £4.46 litre but to match equiv roundup at 4l ha I need 5 litres of it so costs about £22/ha for burndown as yanks call it.

Glyphosate @ 4l/ha for burndown would be £8 ha and glyphosate with a half litre of 24D homemade would cost about £9.50 ha. So in effect your paying a lot for the surfactant or whatever. I've researched the idea of adding 24d and glyphosate homemade and its pretty common in the States without issues unless maybe your in hard water area.

All depends on what weeds are about - Kyleo would do a good job on oil radish but then again presumably so would 24D in crop even?

 

[AG Tim]

Results with kyleo have been much better here than mixtures of glyphosate and 24d. Used it against herbs which glyphosate solo wouldnt kill with 400-600g/ha like knotweed or volunteer OSR before maize planting and also in harder cases on stubble with creeping thistles or field bindweed.

 

[Flat 10]

View attachment 486090View attachment 486092 Still spraying off stubbles today. Using a bit of kyleo as an experiment to knock a bit of rbwh back. Interesting to see how it goes i find it dear for what it is and have also done some 24d and glyphosate mix as a comparison as well.

Much of the land looking a bit sad at the moment. Digging holes and all seems well but from the tractor land looks a bit desperate for sunshine.

I don't know if its true but RBWH always seems to grow in places eg yards etc where the soil is quite sad. Is it supposed to be an indicator of anything?