Window of opportunity for fostering a lamb to a ewe?

neilo

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
Highlanders are usually absolute b*tches for trying to get one on, once they’ve as much as seen their own lamb. I had a recips with a dead single recently, with no spare available. She was penned up with her dead lamb for 3 days, before I skinned it and put it on another lamb. She wasn’t sure about the miracle initially, so needed holding to let him suck for a day or two, but she’s gone out with it happily now.:)

I don’t know if it made any difference, but I did point out to her that, as a 4 year old, if she didn’t take it she’d be in a kebab next week.:rolleyes:
 
Unless there is a wet lamb on the spot, I don't try to twin one onto singles.
But never failed to get a single lamb onto a ewe even a week later without restraint. Just go every 6 hours with a treat for the ewe & get the lamb upto suck. A bit scary when the ewe is pawing the lamb or throwing it in the air, but they always seem to know when to stop.

Always milk the ewe twice a day if waiting for a lamb though.
 

Nithsdale

Member
Livestock Farmer
A bit scary when the ewe is pawing the lamb or throwing it in the air, but they always seem to know when to stop.
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Had a ewe few years ago, her own lamb died at 2-3 days old in bad weather. She was daft keen on it, skinned it and put another lamb on. Bitch knew it wasn't hers and killed it :confused: almost killed the next one I tried her with... instant rejection and she just wouldn't stop battering them.


She doesn't do it anymore... she ended up in a kebab shop.
 

primmiemoo

Member
Location
Devon
Is using adoption "musks" or cheap perfume any use?

If (if!) there's time before trying to adopt on here, the dead lamb and any afterbirth is soaked in a bucket of water before skinning, and the new lamb is dunked in the liquid before the skin is put on.

Making as sure as possible the new lamb behaves correctly like a very new lamb helps, too.

Can't win 'em all, though.
 

Sheep92

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Ireland
Is using adoption "musks" or cheap perfume any use?

If (if!) there's time before trying to adopt on here, the dead lamb and any afterbirth is soaked in a bucket of water before skinning, and the new lamb is dunked in the liquid before the skin is put on.

Making as sure as possible the new lamb behaves correctly like a very new lamb helps, too.

Can't win 'em all, though.
I used "Vic" before with success, thonif I don't get a lamb adopted fresh now I don't bother, don't use the crates now either
 

Longlowdog

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Aberdeenshire
Opportunities passed. run of singles.
I know they are needed but I don't personally like adoption crates. I'd just as soon have a sookie pen with a daft bottle fed lamb in that visitors get a kick out of feeding and that is glad to see you and leads other sheep where you want them.. That's the advantages of being a small bit part player, you get to write your own lines.
 

Dry Rot

Member
Livestock Farmer
Adam Henson did a very good demonstration of collecting birth fluids, dunking a lamb, and twinning on the other evening.

Anything that will kick start the maternal instincts helps. Sometimes the presence of a dog is helpful. Someone who should know told me it is easier if the lamb has had some of the ewe's milk through it as she will recognise her own smell in the urine.

But then there's the old shepherd's saying, "Some are meant to die". Sounds like an anglicised version of, "It is written"!
 

Al R

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
West Wales
Wet adoption up to an hour or so, depends how bloody the backend is, I have 7/8 flexitub’s in the singles side ready to adopt with, add 500ml of warm water to it and it helps increase the blood/smells and put both lambs in the tub for 20 minutes. I’ve paunched a few dead lambs into flexitubs as a quick option instead of skinning a dead lamb and had 2/20 fail and most still had their other twin on them, the dead lamb was in its own bag for a few hours incase a full skinning was needed.
Had ewes take a skinning after 7 days but it’s hard work with some ewes even if done right away..

With the musking part if I have marked lambs (sprayed and tar’d) out in the fields and get rejected or no milk 1 side of the ewe etc then when I do the adoption in the flexitub I will spray both lambs in iodine all over ( spray from 2ft away) and then a squirt on the ewes nose/mouth and so far that hasn’t failed to take.
 

kfpben

Member
Location
Mid Hampshire
I had a ewe lamb a single today at 2.30.

At 4.30 a triplet ewe was lambing so I lambed her and fostered one onto the single ewe. The key is not to let the triplet you’ve taken be licked by it’s mother. The scent of a lamb is mostly that of the ewe that has licked it first, not the lamb itself.

It doesn’t always work but it’s another trick to have alongside wet adoptions, skinning etc.
 
Had a ewe few years ago, her own lamb died at 2-3 days old in bad weather. She was daft keen on it, skinned it and put another lamb on. Bitch knew it wasn't hers and killed it :confused: almost killed the next one I tried her with... instant rejection and she just wouldn't stop battering them.


She doesn't do it anymore... she ended up in a kebab shop.
+1 here struggled not to strangle my ewe there and then
 

puppet

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
sw scotland
Skinned lamb I try within 24 hours. Agree helps if dead lamb is close to her first.
We try twinning on to singles if possible. Best is to catch the bag in a bucket, warm water and foster lamb well soaked and given to ewe before single is born. Second best is the single and foster lamb in a bucket of warm water and foster given first. Rarely fails.
 

primmiemoo

Member
Location
Devon
14 days.

The last of the last lot lambed an overdue single and didn't get up in time to fuss it.

Put a week old lamb on her (in the skin initially) and it took til yesterday for her to accept without someone with her.
 

Al R

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
West Wales
14 days.

The last of the last lot lambed an overdue single and didn't get up in time to fuss it.

Put a week old lamb on her (in the skin initially) and it took til yesterday for her to accept without someone with her.
I had a ewe lost her lamb, had a skin on a 3 week old triplet reared lamb for 8 days, she then spent 5/6 days in the guillotine then went out today with the lamb (y)
 

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