Sandy
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- Location
- Aberdeenshire
We're similar ach well it's only money!!
Winner or loser after reform?
- Thread starter its yourself
- Start date
- Location
- Scotland
What type of farm is a winner?
Medium scale all arable?
Medium scale all arable?
CharcoalWally
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- Location
- West of Scotland
Closest living relative to the slipper farmer you mean Yale?Probably the retired hobby farmer and lazy git with a good spread.
- Location
- Ceredigion
Slippers are cheaper to keep that cows
Jock
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- Location
- Central Scotland
Pretty much the same, down a bit but not as bad as i feared. Mainly arable and suckler cows.
Big losers seem to be those that were buying a lot of calves on the white and taking blue beef special premium claim back in the day. Will be hard to take for some but many have had it pretty good for a long time under the old historical system.
Big losers seem to be those that were buying a lot of calves on the white and taking blue beef special premium claim back in the day. Will be hard to take for some but many have had it pretty good for a long time under the old historical system.
Johnny400
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- Location
- Aberdeenshire
We will be back 15% and yes prob because dad used to buy calves on the white to claim and sell on again.
- Location
- Forfar,Angus,Scotland
We will be more or less where we are now as long as there is no modulation,etc,all arable + potatoes,also rent out grass which we lost entitlements on the last time round to stock farmer,should even things out a bit though although to be honest for all we get i would rather they scrapped the payments and let us get on with it!
We'll be down about 50% I reckon as we really worked the previous system. Don't think it will be the end of the world as we will land up with pretty much the same as we started with. I think it will create more slipper farmers and in our case seasonal lets may be taken back in hand.
I don't know what will happen if Scotland votes yes, interesting times!!
I don't know what will happen if Scotland votes yes, interesting times!!
Dave6170
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- Location
- Watten, caithness
Sac were saying something about there having to be contract farming agreements to replace seasonal lets..?
What id like to know is what will happen when my tenancy runs out? Will they take it back in hand? I got the 5 yr sldt in 2011.
sheepwise
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- Location
- SW Scotland
Looking like 45% of present payment, but what I expected since we finished a lot of cattle in reference years and also suckler cows with full extensification claims.Still do both and in larger numbers and over a bigger area so will be hard to take.However, have tried over the last few years to reinvest the profits into maintainance and modernisation of infrastructure (ie.fencing,draining,buildings,etc.) so will be able to batten down the hatches for a time until things settle down in the new system.I expect there will be adjustments in some values especially with store cattle since most finishers will no longer be able to ignore basic economics by subsidising their purchase from their SFP.
- Location
- Ceredigion
Yes the only ones that have a future and the cheabestAnd they don't need straw or forage either.
what happens after we go independent? or suicidal?
Dairy?
Very extensive large hill areas?
https://consult.scotland.gov.uk/cap-reform-and-crop-policy/cap-direct-payments/ Click on general introduction it gives a run down of winners and losers
- Location
- Black Isle
Yes it's the big hill places that will score, someone I know is going to be getting about 7 x his current payment. Think we will be down 30% on ours, sucklers and arable. If the cows go there will be meltdown I the whole beef industry.
Dave6170
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- Location
- Watten, caithness
Its not going to put sheep back on the hills tho is it?