Winter Barley Awns are out

robbie

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BASIS
I had some awns just showing on some bazooka on the 22nd, that piece was drilled early and has been very forward all year. Everything else has only just reached flag leaf emerged. I definitely would say everything behind!
 

franklin

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Just cut some barley up to see how far the awns are off. Probably middle of next week. Looks properly short due to cold, dry and lashings of PGR. But ears look decent.
 

Iben

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Arable Farmer
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Fife
Flag leaf fully out here, not looked for awns yet. I would say it's about normal time, but crop is short and struggling in the dry now.
 

Hampton

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Location
Shropshire
Barley and wheat are short this year.
My wheat had Broadway star a few weeks ago, and I'm trying to decide if I bother putting the chlormequat on this week.
 
I wont be putting T2 on until most awns are out.

Have you still been putting things like Terpal / Canopy on given drought stress. We put 2l CCC on at T1, but have been advised to leave Terpal out given frosts and drought last week.

If putting those products in, how precise is the cut-off timing? I maybe 3-5% shoots just showing the awns (maybe 0.5cm out). Is this now too late?
 

franklin

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Barley does not seem to be suffering like the wheat - thck canopy is stopping the wind hitting the bare soil. T1 was a *long* time ago and we put 0.2 moddus and some canopy in so it is short. One field is a bit lush and is due for some Terpal on Tuesday. I do *not* enjoy using Terpal and am strict on no-later than paintbrush, and even then not too many.
 

Fuzzy

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Arable Farmer
Location
Bedfordshire
Barley and wheat are short this year.
My wheat had Broadway star a few weeks ago, and I'm trying to decide if I bother putting the chlormequat on this week.
I am thinking the same, i was going to put on ccc + Moddus but might give both a miss apart from on a few lush headlands at the bottom of a hill!
 
Barley does not seem to be suffering like the wheat - thck canopy is stopping the wind hitting the bare soil. T1 was a *long* time ago and we put 0.2 moddus and some canopy in so it is short. One field is a bit lush and is due for some Terpal on Tuesday. I do *not* enjoy using Terpal and am strict on no-later than paintbrush, and even then not too many.

How short is short? Ours is no more than just above knee (with a few exceptions).
 

franklin

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Mine is about knee height but very thick with plenty of tillers.

Canopy has barley on the label to GS41 whereas I think Terpal is up to GS39? I dont have a label to hand. Both have mepiquat in them. My agronomist sent both and said dont use the terpal if frosty. As said, most wont need anything - only one field of 30ac. I very much dislike Terpal but when needed.....
 
Mine is about knee height but very thick with plenty of tillers.

Canopy has barley on the label to GS41 whereas I think Terpal is up to GS39? I dont have a label to hand. Both have mepiquat in them. My agronomist sent both and said dont use the terpal if frosty. As said, most wont need anything - only one field of 30ac. I very much dislike Terpal but when needed.....

NIAB say if you've used CCC at T1 then you need a Terpal follow-up to avoid to much bounce-back. I wonder though with this dry weather whether the lack of moisture will basically do what Terpal would have done.

We have some old Clayton Proud in the shed. Not sure whether that's closer to Canopy or Terpal. Either way, strictly speaking with a few awns just poking out we're beyond both cut-offs anyway. Probably should leave it out.
 

franklin

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I used Canopy fb Canopy + Moddus on the short stuff. Hellish rate of Canopy first time too!

Probably should leave it out.

My view is that I do not want flat barley. Both agronomists were told that the crop goals were at least 8t/ha and a stood crop. Both know they will not be welcome back if it goes flat. If you look at it; mentally imagine it twice the height; see how springy it is then you can decide how close to the cut-off you can ab happy with.

I send a PM.
 

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