Winter barley variety for later than normal drilling

[Northdowns Martin]

Looking for winter feed barley variety that will happily drill into October and still yield grain rather than straw which has been my experience to the past.

 

[Barry]

Not sure that there is any trials evidence for which barley variety would suit best in those situations, though I would tend to go for something with good standing ability so if you are getting the more than likely increase in straw that it is going to stand. In which case it probably means California or Orwell - wouldn't grow Tower because of the susceptibility to Net Blotch.
Generally speaking Hybrids will produce relatively better yields in a later drilled slot in my experience over conventional types but you may not want to spend the money and the variety choice is very limited with the stiffest - Belfry - sold out.

 

[Northdowns Martin]

Not sure that there is any trials evidence for which barley variety would suit best in those situations, though I would tend to go for something with good standing ability so if you are getting the more than likely increase in straw that it is going to stand. In which case it probably means California or Orwell - wouldn't grow Tower because of the susceptibility to Net Blotch.
Generally speaking Hybrids will produce relatively better yields in a later drilled slot in my experience over conventional types but you may not want to spend the money and the variety choice is very limited with the stiffest - Belfry - sold out.

Thanks Barry for reply, tried hybrid last year, October sown, grew to 4ft and 50% went flat which made harvesting a headache. Normally try to plant 3rd week of September but can see this season will be a challenge if we're going to avoid wheat volunteers in crop.

 

[Sonoftheheir]

Always plant late October here and Cassia seems to be the best. 130kg/Ha seed rate. Average yield 3.75-4t acre. Need plenty of PGR though!

 

[Brisel]

How about a spring variety sown in late November? The cross over point between a winter & spring crop is around Bonfire Night in terms of net margin.

 

[Chae1]

Always plant late October here and Cassia seems to be the best. 130kg/Ha seed rate. Average yield 3.75-4t acre. Need plenty of PGR though!

Why such a low seed rate? Planted ours @250kg/ha last year.

 

[Sonoftheheir]

Why such a low seed rate? Planted ours @250kg/ha last year.

What did it yield?

 

[Chae1]

What did it yield?

Similar to yours one field 3.65t/acre other one 3.9

 

[David.]

I have found that Tower planted late Oct, due to BG issues has been very strawy, but stood much better than Cassia. Had three yrs of poor +/-60 bushel weights though.
Time for a rethink.

 

[Sonoftheheir]

Similar to yours one field 3.65t/acre other one 3.9

Well it tillers like hell on our land, any thicker and it would be flat by Easter (as opposed to June like this year!)

 

[SilliamWhale]

Is October late?

Drill cassia/ orwell in october most years

 

[Sonoftheheir]

Bushel always seems good on Cassia (except one year,2015?)

 

[Sonoftheheir]

Is October late?

Drill cassia/ orwell in october most years

We have been into November in some years. Didn’t seem to make much difference to yield.

 

[Brisel]

You are on land that grows good crops of potatoes

 

[Mrfarmjunk]

I planted Orwell on 1st November last year at 225kg/ha
Yielded 4t/acre

 

[nick...]

I wanted some cassia but it was dearer than new varieties cos no one is growing it for seed.allways done well here
Nick...

 

[Tompkins]

Orwell averaged 3.5t/acre following wheat this year. Gave up on hybrids as they never yielded more than the conventional!

 

[2wheels]

can you still get plaisant? if so is it suitable for your area, did well in cold later situations.

 

[Brisel]

Not sure that there is any trials evidence for which barley variety would suit best in those situations, though I would tend to go for something with good standing ability so if you are getting the more than likely increase in straw that it is going to stand. In which case it probably means California or Orwell - wouldn't grow Tower because of the susceptibility to Net Blotch.
Generally speaking Hybrids will produce relatively better yields in a later drilled slot in my experience over conventional types but you may not want to spend the money and the variety choice is very limited with the stiffest - Belfry - sold out.

I agree. Bazooka isn't bad, but increasing seed rates for hybrids is very expensive. I'd use them where yield potential is best, and late sowing is not the best for the highest yield. It depends on how you look at it and what you want to achieve.

 

[Barry]

can you still get plaisant? if so is it suitable for your area, did well in cold later situations.

Plaisant is long gone.. by over 10 years I think!