Winter beans

[Tractor Boy]

How deep can you plant beans and they still come up? I’ve got a Claydon drill coming next year and will do beans with that. I’m theory it would be good to plant the beans really deep and of setember.

I’ve planted them up to 7 inches deep when I used to have an old Claydon V drill. Never went much earlier than 5-10th October though. I can see your thinking as this year I drilled with the 750 at about 3.5 inches deep on around 12/10. I sprayed glyphosate on 20/10 as it was mild and I was worried the beans might soon be through. The trouble is all the blackgrass I reckon came around 23rd October just after I’d put the glyphosate on!

 

[bert]

My worry is planting in March in sunny North Yorkshire will be quite different to the Deep South of England, and harvest date could easily be November, and therefore compromise a decent 1st wheat

 

[Surgery]

Cut spring down winters the last few years form next door , never done anywhere near spring beans and quite frankly weren’t worth growing last year , p1ss poor.

 

[ajd132]

I’ve planted them up to 7 inches deep when I used to have an old Claydon V drill. Never went much earlier than 5-10th October though. I can see your thinking as this year I drilled with the 750 at about 3.5 inches deep on around 12/10. I sprayed glyphosate on 20/10 as it was mild and I was worried the beans might soon be through. The trouble is all the blackgrass I reckon came around 23rd October just after I’d put the glyphosate on!

Yes my view is to hook them in deep after we’ve drilled barley and first wheat then do the second wheat abit later (BG pressure) so I can avoid having to do second wheat and beans at the same time and risk wet weather on our soil

 

[Fish]

My worry is planting in March in sunny North Yorkshire will be quite different to the Deep South of England, and harvest date could easily be November, and therefore compromise a decent 1st wheat

In spring 20, I DD Tundra on the 29/30 March , yield was 4.7t/Ha, harvest was on the 17/18 of sept @ 15%.
How ever, spring 15 l drilled some wizard in early April , harvest was completed on bonfire night after two attempts with moisture north of 23%, take from that what you will, just my experience, one good and err, one not so good.
North of York, but South of the Tees here.

 

[bert]

In spring 20, I DD Tundra on the 29/30 March , yield was 4.7t/Ha, harvest was on the 17/18 of sept @ 15%.
How ever, spring 15 l drilled some wizard in early April , harvest was completed on bonfire night after two attempts with moisture north of 23%, take from that what you will, just my experience, one good and err, one not so good.
North of York, but South of the Tees here.

Well that about sums this job up, every year is different and you can only do so much and the weather will do the rest

 

[Flat 10]

In spring 20, I DD Tundra on the 29/30 March , yield was 4.7t/Ha, harvest was on the 17/18 of sept @ 15%.
How ever, spring 15 l drilled some wizard in early April , harvest was completed on bonfire night after two attempts with moisture north of 23%, take from that what you will, just my experience, one good and err, one not so good.
North of York, but South of the Tees here.

Drilled wizard end of feb last year think I harvested 4t/ha which was acceptable

 

[Hindsight]

Drilled wizard end of feb last year think I harvested 4t/ha which was acceptable

Did you use a Spring Bean plant population or winter bean population?

 

[Flat 10]

Did you use a Spring Bean plant population or winter bean population?

Spring. In actual fact I spun on and cultivated in so I think I was almost at 300kg/ha to apply approx 50 seeds metre . Yielded as much as beans ploughed down in December at more conventional populations.

 

[goodevans]

Spring. In actual fact I spun on and cultivated in so I think I was almost at 300kg/ha to apply approx 50 seeds metre . Yielded as much as beans ploughed down in December at more conventional populations.

Similar seed rate to a bad harvest then

 

[Flat 10]

Similar seed rate to a bad harvest then

I’ve had some terrible bean yields in my time but always managed 2t/ha….

 

[ajd132]

Spring. In actual fact I spun on and cultivated in so I think I was almost at 300kg/ha to apply approx 50 seeds metre . Yielded as much as beans ploughed down in December at more conventional populations.

Last year we spun on and cultivated in beans and they did 750 kg/ha. The land has had a lot of beans though and I didn’t want to have them in the rotation at that farm anymore.
so many grass weeds that we ploughed it after harvest and did a total reset.

 

[Flat 10]

Last year we spun on and cultivated in beans and they did 750 kg/ha. The land has had a lot of beans though and I didn’t want to have them in the rotation at that farm anymore.
so many grass weeds that we ploughed it after harvest and did a total reset.

Yes you don’t want them too frequently in the rotation. Been guilty here

 

[principal skinner]

Drilled Tundra in mid Oct with the Claydon, 2 year old seed, germ 66% so drilled at 400kg/ha as it fitted the area, i think every one has grown, they are certainly thick enough!

 

[Banana Bar]

Tundra drilled 14th October with Claydon into 2“ cultivated ground. 2” spoon rather than the bean coulter.

 

[Banana Bar]

Tundra drilled 14th October with Claydon into 2“ cultivated ground. 2” spoon rather than the bean coulter.View attachment 1006222

 

[ajd132]

Tundra drilled 14th October with Claydon into 2“ cultivated ground. 2” spoon rather than the bean coulter.View attachment 1006222

Love it. My neighbours beans that your drill planted look very good now.

 

[Barleymow]

We never had any success ploughing beans under., probably fine if you have land which you can turn around and level of straight away and then get your pre em on. Some of us have to look at the ploughing for a week or so before we can think about venturing back to level the ground

Nowt worse than combining beans on ploughing full of knot grass and other poliginums

But we do get on well with working the ground in Sept when hopefully the ground is drier and then drilling straight in when we feel the time is right for drilling

Have left it 2 weeks after ploughing if weather changed unexpectedly

 

[Barleymow]

tundra ploughed down 24th October

 

[czechmate]

View attachment 1007037tundra ploughed down 24th October

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