Winter wheat yields

nick...

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Arable Farmer
Location
south norfolk
Just walked my dogs for first time today and the wild bird seed mix that is actually growing has really shot up over night,along with the weeds
Nick...
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
I would think, if wheat is still green, that any rain, even this late, would help grain fill and uptake of N? Correct me if I'm wrong.

“if it is still green”. that’s a problem here !

what is greeen has dropped so many tillers the potential even with perfect weather between now and harvest is very low

we needed the rain here 2 -3 weeks ago at the latest
 

bankrupt

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Location
EX17/20
“if it is still green”. that’s a problem here !

what is greeen has dropped so many tillers the potential even with perfect weather between now and harvest is very low

we needed the rain here 2 -3 weeks ago at the latest
As a rule of thumb, we always reckon that every rainless hot day here after a serious SMD has already set in will reduce WW yields by 1cwt/acre.

This is consistent with our irrigation data showing 10cwt/acre benefit from every acre inch - evapotranspiration in a dry spell being typically 0.1"/day hereabouts.

This time we have had 37 such days.

The current weather pattern is therefore very welcome in that it will tend to reduce further damage.

But it can't recover the losses sustained to date and it won't much help to fill up any of our barns, grain or straw, which are currently all completely empty.

:D :D

edit :- as to expected yields, now changing my vote from 30/40/50 WB/WW/WO to 35/35/50
 
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Farma Parma

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Arable Farmer
Location
Northumberlandia
Wheats much better up North now weve had 21mm rain so far this week & more due tonight.
Id say all our spring cropping is improving vastly also.
Winter crops 25% better than a week ago now.
Best guesses Harvest could be 80% now it was looking sub 60% at worse.
My worst looking Extase Wheat has huge heads & the most impressive plant over all the rest of what i grow.
there all shorter straw wise but thats not the end of the world agchem bills way less than 12months ago.
wheats only had 2 applications & only getting one more. it had 5 last season & no Roundup neither
 

Renaultman

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Arable Farmer
Location
Darlington
Wheats much better up North now weve had 21mm rain so far this week & more due tonight.
Id say all our spring cropping is improving vastly also.
Winter crops 25% better than a week ago now.
Best guesses Harvest could be 80% now it was looking sub 60% at worse.
My worst looking Extase Wheat has huge heads & the most impressive plant over all the rest of what i grow.
there all shorter straw wise but thats not the end of the world agchem bills way less than 12months ago.
wheats only had 2 applications & only getting one more. it had 5 last season & no Roundup neither
We had virtually none in May, it rained north and South of us, it's amazing how well the crops have coped considering. Heavy land helps I guess. Straw is short here and good stuff will get 3 fungicides and poorer 2. Ears are fully out now so will be on at the next available opportunity.
 

DrWazzock

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
The rain is welcome and will help but we have already lost very considerable potential. It isn't going to thicken thin crops but might help with grain fill.
My worry is regrowth and green tillers at harvest.
If this rain continues into ripening it will do more damage than good with brackling, ear diseases fusarium etc as we saw in 2012.
 

bankrupt

Member
Location
EX17/20
My worry is regrowth and green tillers at harvest.
Some tricky decisions coming up, DrWazzock.

In 1982, in a similar drought here, which broke eventually on 10th June, we left the crop in a couple of fields for an extra month or so until its green tillers matured.

Less green corn then, obviously, but the second crop turned out to be of very much lower bushel weight and didn't actually make up for the shedding from the first.
 

Daniel

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Just looked at my skyfall 2nd wheat.

Wish we hadn't bothered.
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Daniel

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When was that drilled? My 1st and 2nd wheat Skyfall have both pretty much finished flower, 2nd wheat just a couple of days ahead growth stage wise They were drilled around 10th Oct.

Can't remember exactly but sometime in March. The field was destined for spring oats but we changed our minds after the winter thinking the wheat price would be high.

Didn't factor in what pretty much zero rain would do to it.
 

Renaultman

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Arable Farmer
Location
Darlington
The rain is welcome and will help but we have already lost very considerable potential. It isn't going to thicken thin crops but might help with grain fill.
My worry is regrowth and green tillers at harvest.
If this rain continues into ripening it will do more damage than good with brackling, ear diseases fusarium etc as we saw in 2012.
Must say secondary tillering crossed my mind, hopefully they won't get to ear before harvest. You forgot sprouting in your rant of doom ;)
(I normally don't worry about things but when the TFF Nostradamus speaks I listen)
 

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