Wire price up again

[Sid]

You can't argue with the facts- America take in an insane number of containers each month. The pandemic meant increased demand for imported goods. Couple that with a lack of dockside staff to run the cranes and they just don't have the capacity to lift and shift the empty containers back for the return journey.

The fact is your arguing with yourself.
I said that brexit has had an effect on these things.

Brexit has had an effect, labour, containers, uncertainty, paperwork.

An American article is narrowed down on the issue in America with trade into and out of America. Not relevant to the UK issues as I stated.

 

[glasshouse]

Thats not funny

Not funny for woodchip driers

 

[Bury the Trash]

gone up 12 % where i get ours , and tbf it had gone down from what it had been a year or 2 ago, so pretty much just back to where it was iyswim.

 

[glasshouse]

Oh it is, gathered up with swing shovel and crushed.

What was needed was couple of strainers and some new stakes.
But there is a grant.....free money oooooooo

Thats why materials are short
My ex landlord ripped out all my fences and burnt them, some were new
All were serviceable
Hedges all ripped out
New hedges and fences now, paid by grant

 

[Kidds]

Think after a month you would have 2 million 684 thousand.

£268,435,456 Put that into your calculator and press divide by 2 and count how many times you press equals until it says 1

 

[glasshouse]

£268,435,456

Starting with a penny?

 

[Sid]

Plenty of farms have 20/30k of fencing to do for various reasons!

Under Mid Tier as it stands you only have two years to do ALL capital works!

18 miles of fencing on one farm.
On an average 220 acre farm with average field size of 12 acres that would be half the farm.

Who let's their farm get in that bad a state of repair?

 

[Sid]

Thats why materials are short
My ex landlord ripped out all my fences and burnt them, some were new
All were serviceable
Hedges all ripped out
New hedges and fences now, paid by grant

But it's all good for the environment and wildlife

 

[gone up the hill]

18 miles of fencing on one farm.
On an average 220 acre farm with average field size of 12 acres that would be half the farm.

Who let's their farm get in that bad a state of repair?

Could be a farm gone into livestock/ someone has just bought a farm/ large block of land/ or perhaps a large % of the fences on the farm could have been done over the last 10/15 years after the timber treatment changed and thus are now rotting out so these need replacing + the rest of the farm can also be done!

Nothing is black and white like you seem to think it is Sid..

@kill

 

[Sid]

Could be a farm gone into livestock/ someone has just bought a farm/ large block of land/ or perhaps a large % of the fences on the farm could have been done over the last 10/15 years after the timber treatment changed and thus are now rotting out so these need replacing + the rest of the farm can also be done!

Nothing is black and white like you seem to think it is Sid..

@kill

How many do you know that have 30,000 metres of fencing to do that have gone into livestock or bought a large 200 acre block of land?

I have part of the farm that was done with crappy timber, I haven't ripped it all out and started again.
Maintained what needed doing.
I wouldn't rip a shed down because the dung walling is rotting that for sure.

Most fencing locally is odd fields not 100's of acres

 

[gone up the hill]

How many do you know that have 30,000 metres of fencing to do that have gone into livestock or bought a large 200 acre block of land?

I have part of the farm that was done with crappy timber, I haven't ripped it all out and started again.
Maintained what needed doing.
I wouldn't rip a shed down because the dung walling is rotting that for sure.

Most fencing locally is odd fields not 100's of acres

Plenty of farms be that large and small operations.

And you do agree or not that ALL capital works under the Mid tier scheme has to be done within the first two years as the rules stand? ( and not as you wrongly claimed within 5 years of the scheme starting )

 

[Bury the Trash]

question is how much of that grant fencing will be done with crap 15 yr 'wonder wood' stakes ,which will be a be just a bad memory in 16 yrs time ,and it all needs doing again wasting wire, time. everything

 

[e3120]

£268,435,456 Put that into your calculator and press divide by 2 and count how many times you press equals until it says 1

It was starting with a penny, not a pound.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

question is how much of that grant fencing will be done with crap 15 yr 'wonder wood' stakes ,which will be a be just a bad memory in 16 yrs time ,and it all needs doing again wasting wire, time. everything

I've bought an electric fence unit , a thrifty man will find a way , I scrounged it ifact [emoji1787]

 

[Kidds]

It was starting with a penny, not a pound.

Apologies, my mistake.

 

[exmoor dave]

Well yes, but that ‘old’ wire isn’t generally thrown away if it’s serviceable is it?

One of our landlords sent out a team of volunteers one day to remove a fence around a hill fort (god knows why).... any way said volunteers were equipped with bolt cutters and told to cut the wire either side of the staples I could have cried when I got there and saw that complete waste of 300m of otherwise good wire!

I don't often lose my rag but the ranger in charge got a straight telling...... I now get rolls of 'old' wire from other jobs saved for me to collect




That was the day I realised I was turning in to my dad

 

[egbert]

Timber producers are coming the c u next Tuesday as it is

hey....thats un called for isn't it?

 

[egbert]

One of our landlords sent out a team of volunteers one day to remove a fence around a hill fort (god knows why).... any way said volunteers were equipped with bolt cutters and told to cut the wire either side of the staples I could have cried when I got there and saw that complete waste of 300m of otherwise good wire!

I don't often lose my rag but the ranger in charge got a straight telling...... I now get rolls of 'old' wire from other jobs saved for me to collect




That was the day I realised I was turning in to my dad

I keep looking at an interior boundary which is getting a bit ragged.
I recall I banged it up in 1987, using 2nd hand stakes- and barbed- that were new in 1968 odd, netting bought 2nd hand from a forester, and maybe a few new strainers.
I've had to smack in the odd stake over the years, and the lower run of barbed is cooked.
Should I complain to netting man?

 

[Bury the Trash]

I've bought an electric fence unit , a thrifty man will find a way , I scrounged it ifact [emoji1787]

Yes got a few of them here as well,high power effiecient modern energisers running very sucessfully from solar panels.
Fibre glass posts as well, concrete strainers and turners,
........ none of this modern treatment wood rubbish.

same with permanent fencing, concrete strainers and steel intermediates ,
..... no wastey wood shite used at all

 

[335d]

The container issue has fudge all to do with Brexit.

Main issue is that the USA is holding a vast pile of empty containers in two ports on the West coast and there is no capacity to get them reloaded onto ships to get them back to Asia etc.

Surely the fact that China have decided not to be the worlds dumping ground, has had a massive effect on the the containers returning to China. When the USA were sending all there recycling to China, they loaded it into the Empty incoming containers for the back load. Now there is no incentive for them to gather up and load the empty containers.
If China was still taking the waste, I’m pretty sure they would find the capacity to load the containers, as they did in the past.