Wood burner recommendations.

Bury the Trash

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Mixed Farmer
Yes. it's the airflow that cant be controled. Dealer keeps saying "it's all due to new regulations" .
basically that's bulls**t . It's a design fault
the defra rules say the air shouldnt be shut off completely, so the simple answer by the manufacturers to upgrade a conventinal designed one to pass new regs. can be something as simple like putting spacers in the top adjustable air vent , so what i did ( allegidly:sneaky: ) to one we bought just after the new regs. came in, was remove the spacers and tightend the slider /over the air holes to achieve a complete shut off for at night etc ,(bottom air hole would shut tight anyway ok) and it worked a treat .
he lets a big log fester all night and it turns almsot to charcoal then in the morn , open him up and it burst s into life .
I took the welder to the top vent as well, put a baffle over the holes because they made a high ptiched noise when it was windy, stopped it completly with out blocking air flow in.

Theres always soem mod you can make even to a new thing bought. just requires a bit of thought and engineering, i love it tbh.:ROFLMAO:
 

Universe

Member
Livestock Farmer
My last log burner purchase was either a DEFRA approved or non approved. The difference being as said above, the DEFRA has a constant, supposedly small..., air flow. So maybe the dealer was telling the truth🤔, but sold you the wrong one...
As above, cannot be a big job to return to original, not that I am suggesting or promoting modification of such.
 

Mur Huwcun

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Livestock Farmer
Location
North West Wales
Don’t you get troubles with chimney and liner soiting up snd creosote collecting if you shut your log burners right down? We get lots of flakes coming down chimney as it is and we never let it slow burn. Logs are as dry as possible and were actually burning oak logs that came down in 2013
 

Uggman

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Livestock Farmer
Don’t you get troubles with chimney and liner soiting up snd creosote collecting if you shut your log burners right down? We get lots of flakes coming down chimney as it is and we never let it slow burn. Logs are as dry as possible and were actually burning oak logs that came down in 2013
We got to get our woodwarm stove up to about 450 500 then close it down and it will stay in burn all nighter I also don't burn just oak I think you got to chuck some soft wood in with just what I find
 
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morso here is lovely to look at and chucks out plenty of heat BUT
struggle to keep it in longer than 3 hours . went back to the dealer and said this was no good, he said the flue was probably too good, never had it with any other customers!
I certainly wouldn't recommend a morso
Certainly looks as though it’s burning fast. If you have a long chimney with a hard draw that will be the cause. You could fit a damper between the stove top and the flue pipe. It works well for us.
 

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Don’t you get troubles with chimney and liner soiting up snd creosote collecting if you shut your log burners right down? We get lots of flakes coming down chimney as it is and we never let it slow burn. Logs are as dry as possible and were actually burning oak logs that came down in 2013
Don’t know if this product is available in UK, but here in France you can buy a ‘Buche de Ramonage’ which is basically a chemical flue cleaning log which goes on the fire when there is a good bed of fire and a hot flue. I generally do mine a couple of times a year, and when the chimney is swept there is very little soot.
 

Mur Huwcun

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
North West Wales
We got to get our woodwarm stove up to about 450 500 then close it down and it will stay in burn all nighter I also don't burn just oak I think you got to chuck some soft wood in with just what I find
Haven’t got much softwood to go on this year, will have plenty next winter but they’re ouside in rings now. Trying to work through this oak as woodworm has got hold of them in a shed! Bringing a bucket full into house at a time and burning it all! We’re going through the logs as if they’re going out of fashion as it’s better than just dumping them all!!!
 

Mur Huwcun

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Livestock Farmer
Location
North West Wales
Don’t know if this product is available in UK, but here in France you can buy a ‘Buche de Ramonage’ which is basically a chemical flue cleaning log which goes on the fire when there is a good bed of fire and a hot flue. I generally do mine a couple of times a year, and when the chimney is swept there is very little soot.

Have seen them but not tried one, I just try to run it really hot once every evening and from time to time forget about it after loading with logs and the bottom vent fully open, a few hairy moments 🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈
 

Humble Village Farmer

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BASE UK Member
Location
Essex
Don’t you get troubles with chimney and liner soiting up snd creosote collecting if you shut your log burners right down? We get lots of flakes coming down chimney as it is and we never let it slow burn. Logs are as dry as possible and were actually burning oak logs that came down in 2013
If you have a good liner that stuff shouldn't build up but will fall in when the flue contracts. I was told when we first got one to make sure you had a good chimney fire every time you light it to burn off and clean any tar in the flue. You wouldn't want to do that in a brick chimney though and anyway don't take my advice on how not to burn your house down.
 
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Humble Village Farmer

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BASE UK Member
Location
Essex
We've got a clearview and a woodwarm. The woodwarm is better, you can shut it down to nothing, but the clearview smokes if it is shut down beyond a certain point. It's one of the smaller ones, a mate of mine has a similar model and that smokes too. I wouldn't get another one.

It could be something to do with our setup but it was put in by a pro.
 
We've got a clearview and a woodwarm. The woodwarm is better, you can shut it down to nothing, but the clearview smokes if it is shut down beyond a certain point. It's one of the smaller ones, a mate of mine has a similar model and that smokes too. I wouldn't get another one.

It could be something to do with our setup but it was put in by a pro.
Do they both have similar types of flues ?
 

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C.J

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Livestock Farmer
Location
South Devon

Fitted one of these last year and it’s been perfect! Rarely run it opened out as it turns the room into the oven can get decent sized logs in It to👍 will burn all night when shut down
12kw cast iron multifuel stove for £371 + vat is incredible value for money
 
Our flue goes up the chimney all the way. Only a small original fireplace so we only have a modest sized stove but even with the door open it can get uncomfortably hot. The flue is a direct run and draws very keenly so we do burn timber at a fire lick. You can't shut the stove down 100% either which I think is probably due to these Defra regulations. I only have hard (mostly oak) to burn that I get off a friend.
 

Mur Huwcun

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Livestock Farmer
Location
North West Wales
Having bit of an issue with our log burner lately, lots of dryish crunchy soot coming back down chimney every time liner expands with heat. It’s not really like creosote but more like cornflakes that crumble between your fingers. It just sits on top of baffle plate, it won’t burn therefore I’m leaning towards that it’s not a candidate for a fire.

Regular sweep won’t get here for nearly three weeks, any one found anything similar? We’re not burning damp wood, it’s seasoned oak been cut years ago and never let it slumber, was sweept early October, fire going every evening and mid afternoon onwards on weekends, open it out before going to bed. Glass keeps itself clean as we never shut it down too much.
 

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