Woodland burials.

[Wheyibuggermair]

Having, thankfully, given up on the idea of livery and decided to just enjoy me wee bit of heaven.
However I got a phone call from a funeral director a week or so back asking if I had given any more thought to his suggestion of 'woodland burials'
To cut a long story short, tragically my daughter in law died 5 years ago, but she surprised us by asking if she could be buried on our land, as we had made it common knowledge over the years it's where we intended to be planted we obviously had no problem with her request.
But a few months later the funeral director phoned us up asking if we were interested in allowing others to be planted there( he was extremely sensitive in his approach) but we said no, just family and friends.
However he occasionally phones and asks if we would reconsider, as apparently we have the ideal location,
Apparently the norm is open fields with a tree planted to mark the grave? Whereas ours is semi mature woodland with lots of meadows/ open spaces.
Now giving it some thought as we could easily keep a good degree of separation from our private plot and the 'neighbours'
My one concern is ' visiting rights'
Anyone else considered this? And, as a general question, is it unusual for landowners/ farmowners to be be buried on their own property?

 

[gone up the hill]

There is one public burial place very similar to here, they have done what you said and plant trees for each burial ( instead of a gravestone ) and they then graze the meadow with sheep, it seems to work well from all accounts.

Ref farmers being buried on their own land, next door's father is buried in the field behind his house, across the valley another farmers son ( who sadly died young from cancer ) is buried where he wished to be which was in the bottom of a valley with trees and which is where he spent many hours as a kid playing.

I think its more common than you realize, only thing i wouldn't like is being reminded every day of that person when you are in the field working/ checking stock etc but at the end of the day each to their own..

Other thing to consider is the legal side and affect on property value/ issue's 30/50 years down the line when your family want/ need to sell the farmland adjacent to your grave/ other peoples grave's!

 

[Bury the Trash]

Having, thankfully, given up on the idea of livery and decided to just enjoy me wee bit of heaven.
However I got a phone call from a funeral director a week or so back asking if I had given any more thought to his suggestion of 'woodland burials'
To cut a long story short, tragically my daughter in law died 5 years ago, but she surprised us by asking if she could be buried on our land, as we had made it common knowledge over the years it's where we intended to be planted we obviously had no problem with her request.
But a few months later the funeral director phoned us up asking if we were interested in allowing others to be planted there( he was extremely sensitive in his approach) but we said no, just family and friends.
However he occasionally phones and asks if we would reconsider, as apparently we have the ideal location,
Apparently the norm is open fields with a tree planted to mark the grave? Whereas ours is semi mature woodland with lots of meadows/ open spaces.
Now giving it some thought as we could easily keep a good degree of separation from our private plot and the 'neighbours'
My one concern is ' visiting rights'
Anyone else considered this? And, as a general question, is it unusual for landowners/ farmowners to be be buried on their own property?

There is a woodland burial ground not far from here it could be the one guth mentions - it has been running for quite a few years (successfully) -they were Dairy farmers once and diversified i suppose.Dont know any more detail than that though.

 

[Wheyibuggermair]

There is one public burial place very similar to here, they have done what you said and plant trees for each burial ( instead of a gravestone ) and they then graze the meadow with sheep, it seems to work well from all accounts.

Ref farmers being buried on their own land, next door's father is buried in the field behind his house, across the valley another farmers son ( who sadly died young from cancer ) is buried where he wished to be which was in the bottom of a valley with trees and which is where he spent many hours as a kid playing.

I think its more common than you realize, only thing i wouldn't like is being reminded every day of that person when you are in the field working/ checking stock etc but at the end of the day each to their own..

Other thing to consider is the legal side and affect on property value/ issue's 30/50 years down the line when your family want/ need to sell the farmland adjacent to your grave/ other peoples grave's!

No, it's all mixed woodland.

 

[varidisc]

I know of 2 farmers and an earl all buried on their own land.

 

[Y Fan Wen]

I've said goodbye to a very good friend here:

Our burial site at Boduan, on the beautiful Llyn Peninsula near Pwllheli, is the only place in Wales where people and their pets can be buried in established woodland.
The Eternal Forest Trust is a Registered Charity (no. 1110801) which owns Boduan Sanctuary, a 7.5 acre mixed bluebell wood bordering the B4354. The Sanctuary is a beautiful peaceful place with a stream running down one border. The Charity maintains the wood using entirely organic methods and we are rewarded with increasing birdsong and rich biodiversity.

You can choose the place in the wood where you want to be buried, or where you would like your family members to be laid to rest. Detailed mapping ensures that the plot will remain dedicated to you and those you love for ever.

We can plant a tree on the grave, along with ferns and local wildflowers. If you want to commemorate someone you have loved and lost, you can dedicate a plot or choose a tree in which to hang a hand-made plaque or dedicated nest box.

The wood is always open to pedestrians.

 

[Courier]

http://brightwatergreenburial.co.uk/

The above is a site in North Lincs.

It is a member of.. http://www.naturaldeath.org.uk

 

[Bongodog]

The biggest consideration is that a burial ground is for ever. Once its full there's no more income, but it still requires maintaining. There isn't a council in the Country that makes a profit from cemeteries. Obviously the maintenance requirements for a woodland is different to a conventional cemetery and initially less expensive, but in time trees will require lots of work, and you have them surrounded by graves which you can't really drive a timber forwarder over.
I know of quite a number of farmers buried on their land, but as soon as you open to the public you require planning permission, that will entail an access road, a car park and all the usual environmental surveys.
I know of three woodland burial grounds locally to me, one very successful, and two that have likely never made a profit and never will.

 

[Wheyibuggermair]

The biggest consideration is that a burial ground is for ever. Once its full there's no more income, but it still requires maintaining. There isn't a council in the Country that makes a profit from cemeteries. Obviously the maintenance requirements for a woodland is different to a conventional cemetery and initially less expensive, but in time trees will require lots of work, and you have them surrounded by graves which you can't really drive a timber forwarder over.
I know of quite a number of farmers buried on their land, but as soon as you open to the public you require planning permission, that will entail an access road, a car park and all the usual environmental surveys.
I know of three woodland burial grounds locally to me, one very successful, and two that have likely never made a profit and never will.

But would it be 'open to the public' as I imagine only family members would be regular visitors? Not really bothered about a profit,more like providing a service to defray the costs of maintaining what,is in essence, a private amenity woodland,which I have never minded sharing with like minded people anyway.

 

[Wheyibuggermair]

I've said goodbye to a very good friend here:

Our burial site at Boduan, on the beautiful Llyn Peninsula near Pwllheli, is the only place in Wales where people and their pets can be buried in established woodland.
The Eternal Forest Trust is a Registered Charity (no. 1110801) which owns Boduan Sanctuary, a 7.5 acre mixed bluebell wood bordering the B4354. The Sanctuary is a beautiful peaceful place with a stream running down one border. The Charity maintains the wood using entirely organic methods and we are rewarded with increasing birdsong and rich biodiversity.

You can choose the place in the wood where you want to be buried, or where you would like your family members to be laid to rest. Detailed mapping ensures that the plot will remain dedicated to you and those you love for ever.

We can plant a tree on the grave, along with ferns and local wildflowers. If you want to commemorate someone you have loved and lost, you can dedicate a plot or choose a tree in which to hang a hand-made plaque or dedicated nest box.

The wood is always open to pedestrians.

Thanks for the marketing ideas, the idea of people being buried along with their pets is an interesting idea, as long as it's not in the Viking or Egyptian model,
We are already 100% organic but it's a marketing idea I will pursue if we go ahead

 

[Kidds]

When I go I want to be buried in my own field. Not sure which field or if I even own it yet.
Don't need a marker and don't require "aftercare" just bury me deep so I am not disturbed.

No plans on going for a while yet but if anyone could point me towards the rules and regulations on the matter I would appreciate it.

 

[Wheyibuggermair]

When I go I want to be buried in my own field. Not sure which field or if I even own it yet.
Don't need a marker and don't require "aftercare" just bury me deep so I am not disturbed.

No plans on going for a while yet but if anyone could point me towards the rules and regulations on the matter I would appreciate it.

Very few, as long as your not affecting a watercourse, I was seriously amazed at the lack of beuoracracy involved.
Mind you, direct drilling could be a problem

 

[Kidds]

Very few, as long as your not affecting a watercourse, I was seriously amazed at the lack of beuoracracy involved.
Mind you, direct drilling could be a problem

I thought not. I have looked into it before now but never found the definite answer.
Be a big ask of the digger driver I guess. Not your every day job (unless you are a grave digger I suppose)

 

[Welsh Farmer]

This might be useful for you @Wheyibuggermair http://www.cardiffnaturalburials.co.uk/ It's near to me and is proving to be very popular. The web site has loads of pictures (gallery tab) plus all the pricing structure.

 

[Wheyibuggermair]

This might be useful for you @Wheyibuggermair http://www.cardiffnaturalburials.co.uk/ It's near to me and is proving to be very popular. The web site has loads of pictures (gallery tab) plus all the pricing structure.

Ta, looks broadly the sort of set up I'd be interested in, though I'd like to NE a lot more 'low key'

 

[Wheyibuggermair]

I thought not. I have looked into it before now but never found the definite answer.
Be a big ask of the digger driver I guess. Not your every day job (unless you are a grave digger I suppose)

Lad that did my DILs was reasonable enough, wouldn't want mini diggers tracking around the place though.

 

[Goatherderess]

Having, thankfully, given up on the idea of livery and decided to just enjoy me wee bit of heaven.
However I got a phone call from a funeral director a week or so back asking if I had given any more thought to his suggestion of 'woodland burials'
To cut a long story short, tragically my daughter in law died 5 years ago, but she surprised us by asking if she could be buried on our land, as we had made it common knowledge over the years it's where we intended to be planted we obviously had no problem with her request.
But a few months later the funeral director phoned us up asking if we were interested in allowing others to be planted there( he was extremely sensitive in his approach) but we said no, just family and friends.
However he occasionally phones and asks if we would reconsider, as apparently we have the ideal location,
Apparently the norm is open fields with a tree planted to mark the grave? Whereas ours is semi mature woodland with lots of meadows/ open spaces.
Now giving it some thought as we could easily keep a good degree of separation from our private plot and the 'neighbours'
My one concern is ' visiting rights'
Anyone else considered this? And, as a general question, is it unusual for landowners/ farmowners to be be buried on their own property?

I have a small woodland burial ground in Dorset, opened in 2000. If you want to chat, send me a pm! Brings me more money than the rental cottages, farm, goats put together. Interesting too, I don't do any of the funeral arrangements just provide the land and do the parking when it's a big funeral.

 

[Goatherderess]

The biggest consideration is that a burial ground is for ever. Once its full there's no more income, but it still requires maintaining. There isn't a council in the Country that makes a profit from cemeteries. Obviously the maintenance requirements for a woodland is different to a conventional cemetery and initially less expensive, but in time trees will require lots of work, and you have them surrounded by graves which you can't really drive a timber forwarder over.
I know of quite a number of farmers buried on their land, but as soon as you open to the public you require planning permission, that will entail an access road, a car park and all the usual environmental surveys.
I know of three woodland burial grounds locally to me, one very successful, and two that have likely never made a profit and never will.

Once the land is full (in about 3 years), there will always be money coming in at a reduced rate as each plot is actually a double plot, with the right side being kept for next-of-kin. So grass-cutting, wood management etc should be covered by that.

 

[Wheyibuggermair]

I have a small woodland burial ground in Dorset, opened in 2000. If you want to chat, send me a pm! Brings me more money than the rental cottages, farm, goats put together. Interesting too, I don't do any of the funeral arrangements just provide the land and do the parking when it's a big funeral.

Have done, ta.

 

[jade35]

If you do decide to go down this route, it may be worth asking about an area for people who wish to place their relations ashes in a quiet/peaceful area. I know a couple of friends who have bought memorial? plots at the gardens to this crematorium at what I thought were eyewatering prices. Their argument was that the area would be well looked after (the gardens are beautiful with full time gardeners) and that it was worth the money!

http://www.dignityfunerals.co.uk/cr...a/find-a-crematorium/glynn-valley-crematorium