Work 'under way' into Scotland-Northern Ireland bridge feasibility

Danllan

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I never had you down as that rampant an optimist.
I'm not, it's simple political reality. Boris won't have to pay for it, and - like all previous governments - he has the public purse and it's effectively bottomless. Economically it's double-edged, but it's a political fact that they want big, visible evidence that they're putting money into the economy and reinforcing the integrity of the union - ideally at the same time. I agree with this particular idea, so it's great. :happy:

Labourites would be cheering if it were a plan to build a million extra houses for all the immigrants that they want over here... but it's not. :)
 

Scribus

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Central Atlantic
I'm not, it's simple political reality. Boris won't have to pay for it, and - like all previous governments - he has the public purse and it's effectively bottomless. Economically it's double-edged, but it's a political fact that they want big, visible evidence that they're putting money into the economy and reinforcing the integrity of the union - ideally at the same time. I agree with this particular idea, so it's great. :happy:

Labourites would be cheering if it were a plan to build a million extra houses for all the immigrants that they want over here... but it's not. :)
Exactly that, Boris won't have to pay for it, but future governments will and it will be low hanging fruit come a far off time when a government has to be seen to be raising a few pennies from somewhere.
 
Of course, and it's very unfair that a Fishguard to Rosslare bridge hasn't been mentioned.

Swansea to Cork would be my preferred route (y)


It is not a political stunt- places like Denmark have built bridges to link their islands etc and it provides genuine economic benefit to the country as they are built and maintained.

Having spent time in Norway, our roads are indeed an embarrassment. The Norwegians must have spent countless billions upon billions on under-sea tunnels and over-fjord bridges, often to connect isolated communities. I didn't see a single toll road either.
 

fudge

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire.
I'm not, it's simple political reality. Boris won't have to pay for it, and - like all previous governments - he has the public purse and it's effectively bottomless. Economically it's double-edged, but it's a political fact that they want big, visible evidence that they're putting money into the economy and reinforcing the integrity of the union - ideally at the same time. I agree with this particular idea, so it's great. :happy:

Labourites would be cheering if it were a plan to build a million extra houses for all the immigrants that they want over here... but it's not. :)
Improving the supply of houses? Now there really is a ridiculous waste of money. If you wanted to waste even more make sure they are in reach of good quality schools and health care. Even more foolish insure they each have a high quality internet connection. A huge shame if these left of center infrastructure priorities got in the way of Johnson’s ego trip.
 
Probably no tolls since the whole point is to connect two parts of the UK,

You mean like the Humber Bridge?



Building it is one thing but maintaining it is another. At today's prices I wouldn't be surprised if a car would be charged £50 or more.

The Humber Bridge is currently £1.50 for 2.2km of crossing. At that rate a 60 mile bridge would be about £65 each way.

It would make a great tourist route as a loop with the ferry back to Anglesey.
 

Henarar

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Livestock Farmer
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Somerset
Improving the supply of houses? Now there really is a ridiculous waste of money. If you wanted to waste even more make sure they are in reach of good quality schools and health care. Even more foolish insure they each have a high quality internet connection. A huge shame if these left of center infrastructure priorities got in the way of Johnson’s ego trip.
easy to improve the supply of housing just do away with the need for planning permission
 
easy to improve the supply of housing just do away with the need for planning permission
Slack planning permission is bad enough, no planning would be a disaster.

If you want to see an example of loose planning regs, go to NI and look at the number of houses that look like they've been dropped out of the sky, every other 3 acre field has a house stuck in it, some small fields have 2 or 3 houses in them.
 

yin ewe

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Co Antrim
You mean like the Humber Bridge?





The Humber Bridge is currently £1.50 for 2.2km of crossing. At that rate a 60 mile bridge would be about £65 each way.

It would make a great tourist route as a loop with the ferry back to Anglesey.

£65 to use the bridge would be a lot cheaper than than the price of the ferry, it would be quicker to cross and you could travel at whatever time of the day or night you wish as opposed to the 4 or 5 sailings available.
 

arcobob

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Location
Norfolk
I cannot imagine many days in the last couple of months would have provide much pleasure for travelers over a 20 mile sea bridge. Comparing this to Danish bridges in the Baltic is unrealistic.
Improving the supply of houses? Now there really is a ridiculous waste of money. If you wanted to waste even more make sure they are in reach of good quality schools and health care. Even more foolish insure they each have a high quality internet connection. A huge shame if these left of center infrastructure priorities got in the way of Johnson’s ego trip.
I personally don`t think we need either.
 

Muck Spreader

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Limousin
Swansea to Cork would be my preferred route (y)




Having spent time in Norway, our roads are indeed an embarrassment. The Norwegians must have spent countless billions upon billions on under-sea tunnels and over-fjord bridges, often to connect isolated communities. I didn't see a single toll road either.

Don't forget Norway is one of the richest countries in the world. So spending what we would consider a disproportionate amount on infrastructure projects is still well within their financial means.
 

glasshouse

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lothians
I am tending to agree with you which is a worrying precedent although your admiration for the Channel Tunnel seems to be in marked contrast to your views on getting closer to Europe. I was very proud to be right in (technically France) at the service tunnel breakthrough as we provided a dining platform right in the middle for Mrs Thatcher and M Mitterand
The channel tunnel fecked uk ag completely
 

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