Workers wanting more than Managers

idgni

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Armagh
He will die on the job
We had a Polish guy here that was the same, started of doing 2 milkings, after three weeks turned up for morning milking as he was awake anyway,
it wasn't work, it was living life for him, he used to whistle all the time while scraping the cubicles, I stood back one day and said to my Dad,
" how can someone be so happy pushing SH!TE!!!!"
He said you want to be 1.5km underground in a coal mine and stuck in water up to your neck for 7 days in Pitch darkness to appreciate we have the best job in the world.
 

Lowland1

Member
Mixed Farmer
just won’t be able to spend £70/month of a phone contract,£100 on tv/music subscriptions, 100’s on clothes/gizmos etc, I would take a bet that 50% of people who consider themselves poor waste a lot of money yet eat complete rubbish.
I come across people everyday who are actually poor and when half or more of your daily income is spent just on food it’s a pretty grim unpleasant existence. If your job is working in a shop or a packing plant or some other mind numbing job then you want to get your fun elsewhere so if it is social networking on your phone or buying clothes etc i have no problem with that. Why should poor people spend more on food to make some already asset rich farmer cash rich. Try standing up in Parliament and explaining that one .
 

glasshouse

Member
Location
lothians
We had a Polish guy here that was the same, started of doing 2 milkings, after three weeks turned up for morning milking as he was awake anyway,
it wasn't work, it was living life for him, he used to whistle all the time while scraping the cubicles, I stood back one day and said to my Dad,
" how can someone be so happy pushing SH!TE!!!!"
He said you want to be 1.5km underground in a coal mine and stuck in water up to your neck for 7 days in Pitch darkness to appreciate we have the best job in the world.
If you were getting £100 an hour you would whistle too
Thats what the poles were getting the equivalent of 16 yr ago in uk
My pole was earning a fortnights pay in a day when he started
I used to have to go to the workshop at ten pm and tell him to stop
 

2wheels

Member
Location
aberdeenshire
When will sprayer drivers get paid what their worth for doing the job. Given the.

Health implications.
Long unsociable hours.
The stress.
The pressure.
The responseability.
No home and social life.
servicing and maintaining 300 grand machine so it’s turn key ready.
Never being unable to plan anything outside work from February to November.
when you do get time off, you end up spending the time looking at the forecast for the next lot of spraying.
All this for just over the minimum wage.
that sounds very familiar. the guys that get the work done think you just sit on your arse.
 
When will sprayer drivers get paid what their worth for doing the job. Given the.

Health implications.
Long unsociable hours.
The stress.
The pressure.
The responseability.
No home and social life.
servicing and maintaining 300 grand machine so it’s turn key ready.
Never being unable to plan anything outside work from February to November.
when you do get time off, you end up spending the time looking at the forecast for the next lot of spraying.
All this for just over the minimum wage.


Put a polite advert in FW or somewhere and see what people will offer you!! You may be surprised. Skilled folk like that are like gold dust.

Get yourself through the BASIS course as well- you will find the increased knowledge means you are a lot more comfortable with products and recommendations. Go out with an agronomist and see how he does the job, you should find this backs the pressure off a bit- nothing I ever did was rocket science!
 

Robt

Member
Location
Suffolk
When will sprayer drivers get paid what their worth for doing the job. Given the.

Health implications.
Long unsociable hours.
The stress.
The pressure.
The responseability.
No home and social life.
servicing and maintaining 300 grand machine so it’s turn key ready.
Never being unable to plan anything outside work from February to November.
when you do get time off, you end up spending the time looking at the forecast for the next lot of spraying.
All this for just over the minimum wage.
Good morning Ivor,
There are some sprayer drivers on serious money. Some spray contractors do very well. Roll back 6 years and a driver for a big spray contractror (also supplier for chemical) was on 50k and had two-three months off which he went lorry driving. Yes he did serious hours in season but the money is there or was.
 

D14

Member
There was a time not long ago I was impressed if someone was on £9 an hour. After 2 years of my current job i dream of handing in my notice but I cannot see a way of starting a family and taking less than my £13.50 an hour at the moment. As much as I would love to make a career in agriculture, I’m struggling to find an opportunity. There’s chicken shed washing for £11 but while I’m financially stable it would be stupid of me to apply. Currently enquiring over doing my class 2 and cpc. No doubt there’s high wages in places but professional driving is looking more £9 - £12 at the moment. I’m often taken with @7610 super q posts, it really feels that commodities will be priced far higher than is in reach. My employer is a fine example. The current minimum wage increase was hailed as a success by unions, employers just counteracted this increase by slashing staffing hours by 50 percent. There’s very few winners if wages/takings cant keep up with inflation

But unless your boss can find the missing 50 hours from new staff members on reduced hour contracts, then his business will eventually suffer because he won't be able to service his customers needs.
 

glasshouse

Member
Location
lothians
I come across people everyday who are actually poor and when half or more of your daily income is spent just on food it’s a pretty grim unpleasant existence. If your job is working in a shop or a packing plant or some other mind numbing job then you want to get your fun elsewhere so if it is social networking on your phone or buying clothes etc i have no problem with that. Why should poor people spend more on food to make some already asset rich farmer cash rich. Try standing up in Parliament and explaining that one .
Maybe you are asset rich, many of us on here arent
 

Pigken

Member
Location
Co. Durham
I come across people everyday who are actually poor and when half or more of your daily income is spent just on food it’s a pretty grim unpleasant existence. If your job is working in a shop or a packing plant or some other mind numbing job then you want to get your fun elsewhere so if it is social networking on your phone or buying clothes etc i have no problem with that. Why should poor people spend more on food to make some already asset rich farmer cash rich. Try standing up in Parliament and explaining that one .



Very much agree with what you are saying but those less well off all had an allotment /garden where veg was grown. How many now grow anything apart from rashes.
 
just won’t be able to spend £70/month of a phone contract,£100 on tv/music subscriptions, 100’s on clothes/gizmos etc, I would take a bet that 50% of people who consider themselves poor waste a lot of money yet eat complete rubbish.
Lad n village earns decent money has farm job and free house , always complaining no money , fancy phone iPad sky . 100 ish every weekend on booze
We reckoned him upto 600 month on wasting money
 

Lowland1

Member
Mixed Farmer
£600 for wheat is not outragious at all, its going to happen.
Just look at thr canadian drought situation and brasil frosts
For me £600 a tonne wheat wouldn’t mean yards full of Fendt, Lexions and Range Rovers it would mean famine lots of very poor hungry people roaming the world and possibly the Chinese arriving to collect their food at gun point. It’s not something to be looking forward to. There’s a reason for cheap food it keeps the population in line which is what Governments want.
 

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