Workshop compressor

[Masseymad]

Looking for a new workshop compressor wanting something with a fairly big tank as using it to seat tyres. Can only be single phase unfortunately. what makes should we be looking at.
Thanks

 

[davidroberts30]

What ever you go for look for the decibel rating or look at quiet compressors
Nothing worse then a compressor droneing away in the workshop

 

[Lincs Lass]

3hp on a 16a blue plug single phase ,,mine is a 200ltr spaldings

 

[Lucy @ Farm Marketplace]

Looking for a new workshop compressor wanting something with a fairly big tank as using it to seat tyres. Can only be single phase unfortunately. what makes should we be looking at.
Thanks

direct from manufacturer on TFF Farm Marketplace

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[Deutzdx3]

3hp piston will produce 14cfm with 9cfm free air delivery. What people don’t get is piston machines need to run 40% rest 60% or they overheat and damage the pump.

Hydrovane or screw will run all day, produce more free air delivery and last a life time. But cost twice the price. Also they are quieter than piston machines.

 

[milkloss]

3hp piston will produce 14cfm with 9cfm free air delivery. What people don’t get is piston machines need to run 40% rest 60% or they overheat and damage the pump.

Hydrovane or screw will run all day, produce more free air delivery and last a life time. But cost twice the price. Also they are quieter than piston machines.

And no yearly test unless you have a receiver tank.

 

[jellybean]

3hp piston will produce 14cfm with 9cfm free air delivery. What people don’t get is piston machines need to run 40% rest 60% or they overheat and damage the pump.

Hydrovane or screw will run all day, produce more free air delivery and last a life time. But cost twice the price. Also they are quieter than piston machines.

My 3hp compressor with 150 litre tank will struggle when I am spray painting, will be running most of the time. Would it make a difference to the life of the compressor if I added another tank or would that just be wishful thinking?

 

[Highland Mule]

Be aware that there’s specific legal testing requirements that kick in when you go over a certain amount of stored air (pressure x volume). From memory, it’s something around 250 bar-litres, but do check. If adding another storage tank takes you over this, it could add a bit of annual expense/ work.

 

[Deutzdx3]

My 3hp compressor with 150 litre tank will struggle when I am spray painting, will be running most of the time. Would it make a difference to the life of the compressor if I added another tank or would that just be wishful thinking?

It would make a massive difference to it. Not what you’re hoping though, it’ll kill it in no time.

Tank size is mostly irrelevant, it’s the free air delivery that’s important.

What is the cfm that your gun uses? Mine use 17cfm. Add in breathing mask you’re up as 20.

3hp piston compressor is no good with hvlp spray guns. Also, the quality of air produced is much less than a vane or screw.

 

[jellybean]

That explains it then, I was using a hvlp spray gun. So I change the spray gun or change the compressor?

 

[Deutzdx3]

That explains it then, I was using a hvlp spray gun. So I change the spray gun or change the compressor?

Me personally I would change the compressor. Get a screw or vane. You’ll never look back. Never will you use a piston compressor again. If it’s a good hvlp gun it’ll have 75% transfer. Paint being the price it is I would look to try and get as much on the panel as possible.

 

[jellybean]

Just been having a google on the subject. To get enough cfm for my sprayer it looks like I would need a 3-phase compressor or a petrol engined one. The one I have is 3 hp 150 litre tank and 14 cfm. Its fine for all my normal workshop stuff so maybe I will investigate different spray guns.
Can't really justify the expense of a better compressor for the amount of spraying I do unless I find a bargain somewhere.

 

[tinman]

Magnum Compressors in the uk,
the model your wanting is the STX30/270 with the upgraded motors, that last bit is important and only costs a few quid more.

It has 30 CFM and 21 FAD using the two 3Hp motors, A 270ltr tank with twin chinook heads on it (excellent quality) , they have a delay contactor on the compressor so one motor starts and a few seconds later the second one starts which makes it easier on a not so well endowed electric supply if you suffer from that.

I have two Magnums here, one is 30+ yrs old and still working away, when it came to buy another one i didn't look anywhere else for i had no need to, I have directed many's a lad towards the same and all are delighted with their choice afaik for if they weren't id of heard about it.
i have no affiliation to the product bar I like a bit of quality and I have no reason to call this anything else compared to whats out there in this day and age.

Home -MAGNUM COMPRESSORS ARE MANUFACTURED TO MEET ALL EU STANDARDS.WE USE ITALIAN MOTORS PUMPS AND TANKS TO MAKE SURE WE PRODUCE TOP QUALITY MACHINERY FOR INDUSTRY AND WORKSHOPS

MAGNUM COMPRESSORS ARE MANUFACTURED TO MEET ALL EU STANDARDS.WE USE ITALIAN MOTORS PUMPS AND TANKS TO MAKE SURE WE PRODUCE TOP QUALITY MACHINERY FOR INDUSTRY AND WORKSHOPS

www.magnumcompressors.co.uk

 

[Deutzdx3]

Just been having a google on the subject. To get enough cfm for my sprayer it looks like I would need a 3-phase compressor or a petrol engined one. The one I have is 3 hp 150 litre tank and 14 cfm. Its fine for all my normal workshop stuff so maybe I will investigate different spray guns.
Can't really justify the expense of a better compressor for the amount of spraying I do unless I find a bargain somewhere.

That 14cfm is piston displacement. Not what you get out the tank. 9 cfm out the tank

 

[Deutzdx3]

Magnum Compressors in the uk,
the model your wanting is the STX30/270 with the upgraded motors, that last bit is important and only costs a few quid more.

It has 30 CFM and 21 FAD using the two 3Hp motors, A 270ltr tank with twin chinook heads on it (excellent quality) , they have a delay contactor on the compressor so one motor starts and a few seconds later the second one starts which makes it easier on a not so well endowed electric supply if you suffer from that.

I have two Magnums here, one is 30+ yrs old and still working away, when it came to buy another one i didn't look anywhere else for i had no need to, I have directed many's a lad towards the same and all are delighted with their choice afaik for if they weren't id of heard about it.
i have no affiliation to the product bar I like a bit of quality and I have no reason to call this anything else compared to whats out there in this day and age.

Home -MAGNUM COMPRESSORS ARE MANUFACTURED TO MEET ALL EU STANDARDS.WE USE ITALIAN MOTORS PUMPS AND TANKS TO MAKE SURE WE PRODUCE TOP QUALITY MACHINERY FOR INDUSTRY AND WORKSHOPS

MAGNUM COMPRESSORS ARE MANUFACTURED TO MEET ALL EU STANDARDS.WE USE ITALIAN MOTORS PUMPS AND TANKS TO MAKE SURE WE PRODUCE TOP QUALITY MACHINERY FOR INDUSTRY AND WORKSHOPS

www.magnumcompressors.co.uk

4kw hydrovne and an inverter would get you 21cfm noise would be 68db instead of 105.

 

[tinman]

4kw hydrovne and an inverter would get you 21cfm noise would be 68db instead of 105.

Buy a new one for a thousand would ya......

when you get used to 30 Cfm, 21 is like the cheap seats..

as for noise, im not sitting on mine when its filling, indeed its in the store area behind a partition in the workshop, mounted 8' high on rubber dampeners, its plenty quiet for me.

 

[Deutzdx3]

Buy a new one for a thousand would ya......

when you get used to 30 Cfm, 21 is like the cheap seats..

as for noise, im not sitting on mine when its filling, indeed its in the store area behind a partition in the workshop, mounted 8' high on rubber dampeners, its plenty quiet for me.

No but it’ll last for ever. Worked in a body shop with a twin 3hp compressor. It was defeaaning.

 

[tinman]

No but it’ll last for ever. Worked in a body shop with a twin 3hp compressor. It was defining.

Just how much are you talking for a 4kw hydrovane and an an inverter tell us?

As i was saying, one of the ones i have has done 30+ yrs, not a bad lifetime and still going strong imo.

No doubt its not best practice to have it right beside where your working, I'm sure there's an adjoining building that it could be mounted in, or worst case scenario you build a wee lean to hut for it outside the workshop.

At a blind guess, id say 4-5k wouldn't look at what your proposing new, My bad if the OP is willing to spend that kind of coin on a compressor but id be surprised if he was.., that magnum is about 1k out of the box.

 

[Deutzdx3]

Just how much are you talking for a 4kw hydrovane and an an inverter tell us?

As i was saying, one of the ones i have has done 30+ yrs, not a bad lifetime and still going strong imo.

No doubt its not best practice to have it right beside where your working, I'm sure there's an adjoining building that it could be mounted in, or worst case scenario you build a wee lean to hut for it outside the workshop.

At a blind guess, id say 4-5k wouldn't look at what your proposing new, My bad if the OP is willing to spend that kind of coin on a compressor but id be surprised if he was.., that magnum is about 1k out of the box.

Brand new 3k for a hv04 hydrovane. Inverter £125

I run an hpc sm8 and an hv04 Both screw compressors. Both with separate dryers. I paid 1200 for my sm8 with 17000 hours on it. Paid 500 for the hv04 secondhand. There are thousands of second hand bands out there. An older vane can be picked up for £600.

 

[jellybean]

Apologies for jumping in on @Masseymad thread, but at least we are getting some useful info.