World Record Wheat For Harvest 2021

[DrWazzock]

Some of the best crops of wheat we have had looked rubbish all winter. Then they got enough moisture right through to harvest. That’s it here.

 

[T Hectares]

What's your target drilling date @teslacoils ??
Hopefully bucketfulls of AminoA too??

Finally, cut with a Claas with an uncalibrated yield meter for maximum tonnage...

 

[ajd132]

I think all that matters is mostly being geographically in an area where it doesn’t get scorched, so higher up on the worlds. Some decent soils, the correct amount of rain and being a reasonably good farmer.

 

[teslacoils]

being a reasonably good farmer.

Bah, knew there was something.

 

[redsloe]

Bah, knew there was something.

Ha, that will catch most of us out! I've always said there's more luck than skill in farming.

 

[Brisel]

Manure. Lots of it and applied every year leading up to the record attempt.

Be prepared for 4-5 splits of N, 100 kg of K as SOP and the P as DAP or MAP, all top dressed onto high index soils. If it’s high mag clay, lots of gypsum for a couple of years before. Fix the soil pH.

That’s before I get started on soil structure and can based crop treatments...

 

[CJS]

Manure. Lots of it and applied every year leading up to the record attempt.

Be prepared for 4-5 splits of N, 100 kg of K as SOP and the P as DAP or MAP, all top dressed onto high index soils. If it’s high mag clay, lots of gypsum for a couple of years before. Fix the soil pH.

That’s before I get started on soil structure and can based crop treatments...

Anyone else think it’s a strange year for a record wheat crop Every other field had similar weather and one random field yields twice as much as most of the others.Also harvested early I’m always told the longer it takes to ripen the higher the yield

 

[richard hammond]

Manure. Lots of it and applied every year leading up to the record attempt.

Be prepared for 4-5 splits of N, 100 kg of K as SOP and the P as DAP or MAP, all top dressed onto high index soils. If it’s high mag clay, lots of gypsum for a couple of years before. Fix the soil pH.

That’s before I get started on soil structure and can based crop treatments...

Bugger you have been reading all the right books, and Weeklies!! (FW)

 

[sensiblefarmer]

*If* I had a tiny penis, and *if* I felt the need to compensate for this by growing a huge pile of wheat, what would be the things I would do?

Ignoring soil and location, how would you set up for a world record? Obviously you'd publicly say it was down to some crazy trace element, or dancing naked around the magic stones.

But naked dancing aside, How'd you do it? Long break from wheat? High residual N from veg? Dirty great wodges of N? How many seeds? How many heads? What to look at in a variety? How about cultivation - work the bejeesus out of the soil to depth, or what?

Given you can't magically change weather, soil, location, or irrigate, what would you do to get the yield? Buy the yield if you like - this isn't a question of margin. At this level do you have to look at things like tramlines - my ten passes with foot wide tyres might not cut the mustard at 24m. Does it need to be 400kgN with an inhibitor in Feb, then bicycle wheels until harvest ?

It's part interest, part because I've a field coming out of legume fallow that hasn't been wheat in six years, so thought it might be worth a crack.

Well I only get 5 t ha! Bet women must envy my wife. Like I tell her.....say when!!!

 

[richard hammond]

Bugger you have been reading all the right books, and Weeklies!! (FW)

I do respect any body who pushes the boundaries of expectations of the normal, but a record in yield per hectare does not mean that result can leave the best economic return for the commercial farmer! Tim is a great farmer with great knowledge , who has a great FARM, I have a farmer not a big distance away from the record who has averaged over 8.7t/ha with very minimal inputs, take your pick who has made the most money /profit!!

 

[Clive]

*If* I had a tiny penis, and *if* I felt the need to compensate for this by growing a huge pile of wheat, what would be the things I would do?

Ignoring soil and location, how would you set up for a world record? Obviously you'd publicly say it was down to some crazy trace element, or dancing naked around the magic stones.

But naked dancing aside, How'd you do it? Long break from wheat? High residual N from veg? Dirty great wodges of N? How many seeds? How many heads? What to look at in a variety? How about cultivation - work the bejeesus out of the soil to depth, or what?

Given you can't magically change weather, soil, location, or irrigate, what would you do to get the yield? Buy the yield if you like - this isn't a question of margin. At this level do you have to look at things like tramlines - my ten passes with foot wide tyres might not cut the mustard at 24m. Does it need to be 400kgN with an inhibitor in Feb, then bicycle wheels until harvest ?

It's part interest, part because I've a field coming out of legume fallow that hasn't been wheat in six years, so thought it might be worth a crack.

drip irrigate and fertigation

 

[teslacoils]

drip irrigate and fertigation

That's perhaps a step beyond. But the principle must be to erase the bottlenecks and limiting factors.

 

[sensiblefarmer]

I do respect any body who pushes the boundaries of expectations of the normal, but a record in yield per hectare does not mean that result can leave the best economic return for the commercial farmer! Tim is a great farmer with great knowledge , who has a great FARM, I have a farmer not a big distance away from the record who has averaged over 8.7t/ha with very minimal inputs, take your pick who has made the most money /profit!!

Ah, there's the rub. be interesting to see the overall GM. I have neighbour who "buys" that extra tonne.

 

[Hindsight]

That's perhaps a step beyond. But the principle must be to erase the bottlenecks and limiting factors.

Had you thought of asking Tim Lamyman if you could rent a field from him for a year?

 

[teslacoils]

I'm going to do it here. If we were getting 4t of Claire 20 years ago, then surely now we've muck and grass and modern chem and genetics we should be well towards 6?

 

[Pebd99]

I do respect any body who pushes the boundaries of expectations of the normal, but a record in yield per hectare does not mean that result can leave the best economic return for the commercial farmer! Tim is a great farmer with great knowledge , who has a great FARM, I have a farmer not a big distance away from the record who has averaged over 8.7t/ha with very minimal inputs, take your pick who has made the most money /profit!!

Making an extra 6t plus a hectare can pay for a seriously stupid amount of inputs. Whether it’s viable to do on every hectare or even needed is a different question. I do too really like seeing the boundaries pushed, lets us know the best form of roi which normally leads to a better gross margin.

 

[Brisel]

Bugger you have been reading all the right books, and Weeklies!! (FW)

I've been following what the best yielders do, especially the YEN growers. You're right about whether the best margin comes from a lower input programme, though it does depend on the regular potential of your soils. I don't think that it was a coincidence that all the 2019 YEN winners had plenty of muck on their sites.

 

[ajd132]

Making an extra 6t plus a hectare can pay for a seriously stupid amount of inputs. Whether it’s viable to do on every hectare or even needed is a different question. I do too really like seeing the boundaries pushed, lets us know the best form of roi which normally leads to a better gross margin.

I don’t think you actually need to spend on a silly amount of inputs though if you are on a site capable of these massive yields. Abit more of everything.
The fact Tim Lammyman spent something like £700-800ha on inputs on his oilseed rape record is absolute ridiculous, how is it even possible to spend that much money!