Would you buy an electric vehicle POLL

would you buy an electric vehicle

  • Yes

  • No


Results are only viewable after voting.
Here is a long story I hope you’ll enjoy
I have an electic van on lease due to be returned next week. It’s been in the garage having some cosmetic work done. It went in with 33 mile range on the battery, but they drained the battery to 5 miles.
Now for two years we have used public charging points as its £1000 to get a port fitted at home and my home isn’t suitable as cables would be over the pavement.
Anyway, just make it to the charger and of course its not working. I ring technical support, they say will take up to 40 hours to fix.
So I have no choice but to leave it at morrisons as if I tried to get to the next charger 3 miles away and break down, the only way to retrieve an electric vehicle is a tow truck.
The techical support said…..’maybe you should call the tow truck then’
Now luckily I have bought a 2016 year old larger Renault Traffic to replace this pointless van, (bought before I knew about this scheme) which is now stuck (not my fault as the guy in the garage sat in the van and drained it to get warm, not for any work)
I have no regrets about buying this ‘environmentally unfriendly van’ and I will NEVER pay this absurd charge when this vehicle is required for my business. The one I have purchased was £13500 and Burnham and co are trying to tell me
Its not useable.
Tell you what isn’t useable…electric vehicles. We have not advanced at all in two years. Bloody joke the whole thing!!

Lots of these kind of situations I’m afraid. I shouldn’t worry because there’s a new fuel being developed from agricultural waste and now being tested.
This is just the start as they’ll be new fuels coming through. The likes of Shell and BP aren’t just going to take it up the backside and shut all their fuel stations in 2030. They’ll just be selling ‘sustainable or renewable’ fuel instead.

 

roscoe erf

Member
Livestock Farmer
271706450_5093945997292800_5032769277345720292_n.jpg
 

D14

Member
As petrol and diesel use declines is it reasonable to think that the Government will make good the loss of fuel duty by adding it to the cost of electricity for vehicle charging.

Some charging stations already have card machines charging and those people who were paying 12p/kwh will be paying 25p/kwh on renewal and this is only going one way. So with the higher cost of the car in the first place and the increase in elec costs then I'll be sticking with good old diesel for many years.
 

Poorbuthappy

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Devon
Some charging stations already have card machines charging and those people who were paying 12p/kwh will be paying 25p/kwh on renewal and this is only going one way. So with the higher cost of the car in the first place and the increase in elec costs then I'll be sticking with good old diesel for many years.
And some people (like my father) are paying 5p a unit to charge overnight. Others are charging off their own renewables.

Obviously as people switch to evs the govt will have to replace the fuel tax revenue. I'm guessing with some pay per mile system?
In the meantime early adopters are enjoying the savings. And not all evs are significantly more expensive than their ice equivalent.
 

D14

Member
And some people (like my father) are paying 5p a unit to charge overnight. Others are charging off their own renewables.

Obviously as people switch to evs the govt will have to replace the fuel tax revenue. I'm guessing with some pay per mile system?
In the meantime early adopters are enjoying the savings. And not all evs are significantly more expensive than their ice equivalent.

If your farming and need an all rounder instead of running multiple vehicles then electric is prohibitive because I could have an elec car that needs space for 4, plus a big boot for bags, kids bikes etc but then I'd also need a ICE 4wd with tow bar for daily farm use.
So I'm at work but have got the school runs to do. I am not going to do the school run in the morning in the elec, then return home, swap into the ICE 4wd for the rest of the day, but then return home again to swap back to the elec for the end of day school run, then back home and possibly swap back into the ICE to finish work if needed. Elec just is not practical unless I can find something like a elec pickup to tow 3 tonnes + or a Discovery, Marc ML etc thats 4wd and can tow. These type of vehicles are not available.
 

GouldDyer

Member
Mixed Farmer
I like the idea of them, but at the moment they are still too expensive new, and I wouldn't be comfortable buying a second hand one yet...may be in a few years.

However, we have been thinking about an electric quad for general yard work. It would also be good to have a more silent vehicle to use for pest management. (we get a lot of fox and deer that we have to keep on top of..!) I had a go on one at the groundswell show back in the summer...it was a bit weird!
 

chickens and wheat

Member
Mixed Farmer
Some charging stations already have card machines charging and those people who were paying 12p/kwh will be paying 25p/kwh on renewal and this is only going one way. So with the higher cost of the car in the first place and the increase in elec costs then I'll be sticking with good old diesel for many years.

Charge stations are generally way more expensive than that, using one is hardly cheaper than using petrol.
To run electric you need to be charging at home/work not at services.

Charging a hybid at service station is a pointless exerise no money saving just slower.
 

Poorbuthappy

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Devon
If your farming and need an all rounder instead of running multiple vehicles then electric is prohibitive because I could have an elec car that needs space for 4, plus a big boot for bags, kids bikes etc but then I'd also need a ICE 4wd with tow bar for daily farm use.
So I'm at work but have got the school runs to do. I am not going to do the school run in the morning in the elec, then return home, swap into the ICE 4wd for the rest of the day, but then return home again to swap back to the elec for the end of day school run, then back home and possibly swap back into the ICE to finish work if needed. Elec just is not practical unless I can find something like a elec pickup to tow 3 tonnes + or a Discovery, Marc ML etc thats 4wd and can tow. These type of vehicles are not available.
Fair enough if you can get away with 1 vehicle. Everyone's situation is different. We can't manage with 1 vehicle, so have gone electric for car, and run a 4x4 pickup for farm use. I would love an electric truck, but until there's used Rivians or F150 Lightening at half sensible money it won't happen.

I don't get the hate for evs. If it doesn't work for an individual's current situation, there's plenty of other options still, and will be for many years to come, but why dismiss them altogether? There's a lot of haters out there just looking for excuses to shout them down.
 

___\0/___

Member
Location
SW Scotland
Charge stations are generally way more expensive than that, using one is hardly cheaper than using petrol.
To run electric you need to be charging at home/work not at services.

Charging a hybid at service station is a pointless exerise no money saving just slower.
50 free charging stations in my local council area, admittedly think that's all about to change but for some it has been nearly nothing to run their cars for a good while.
 

db9go

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Buckinghamshire
And / or a charge by the mile. Modern vehicles already have the required GPS/location aware systems.
That is correct they have the tec to that BUT what they are struggling with is there are ways around it .
Its a bit like using cherry in your tank and that carries les tax and can be found quite simple with a dip of your tank. but with the GPS way there are a lot of other ways to get round it.
They have been testing for quite some time.
Why do you think they have been pushing smart meters for your house and they have hit a stone wall with that.
 

Latest Poll on TFF

  • Yes

    Votes: 22 15.1%
  • No

    Votes: 124 84.9%

JCB launches Fastrac ‘iCon’

  • 142
  • 0
Written by Charlotte Cunningham from CPM Magazine

JCB has launched new Fastrac 4000 and 8000 Series tractors with an all-new electronics infrastructure which is claimed to deliver higher levels of performance. According to JCB, the new Fastrac iCon operator environment has three key features: iConfigure – creating a bespoke control experience for every operator iConnect – integrating advanced precision agriculture technology iControl – redefining operation through new driveline software The 175hp to 348hp (133kW to 260kW) Fastracs feature the new iCon armrest console and touch-screen display to provide flexibility in operator allocation and operator information, as well as a new transmission control strategy to enhance operator comfort and powertrain efficiency, says the manufacturer...
Top