Would you drill gleam wheat this week?

[dannewhouse]

Weather pending, I have some ploughing that's drying out nicely but gleam safe date is end of Jan.
Quick do with combi at 100kg/ha

 

[Devil's advocate]

Yes, there will be a beast from the East.

Your risk though.

I'm hoping to drill winter barley this week.

 

[goodevans]

Weather pending, I have some ploughing that's drying out nicely but gleam safe date is end of Jan.
Quick do with combi at 100kg/ha

No problem I would say but I do think your seed rate needs doubling at least

 

[Phil P]

Was just about to say the same, seed rate seems very low. We’ve been drilling last week around the 240kg/ha (vr). Usually the lowest we ever go on winter wheat would be 160kg/ha with ideal conditions in September.

 

[dannewhouse]

I meant 100kg acre! Too many units!

 

[dannewhouse]

Does 16 ston sound better?

 

[Phil P]

I meant 100kg acre! Too many units!

Does 16 ston sound better?

Sounds more like it, 100kg/ac is 1.96cwt/ac or 247kg/ha?

 

[Renaultman]

No problem I would say but I do think your seed rate needs doubling at least

Gleam is very light but agree, we were at 250KG in November, must say it didn't impress me last harvest but I admire it's tenacity this autumn/winter. It just seems to power through the gloop.

 

[average farmer]

I thought gleam was a mid feb cut off date? I’ve got a bit to put in if it dries enough tomorrow/Thursday. I’m not bothered to much by a week or two of these cut off dates.
Plan to drill, gleam, kinetic and skyscraper in same field for next years seed.

 

[Hindsight]

Does 16 ston sound better?

Ah, now I understand two bags an acre

 

[Banana Bar]

Drilled Gleam today and will tomorrow. Rec list says mid February

 

[Hindsight]

Weather pending, I have some ploughing that's drying out nicely but gleam safe date is end of Jan.
Quick do with combi at 100kg/ha

Crumbs Huddersfield is positively Alpine. If no vernalisation not a lot of chance for us at sea level.

 

[AT Aloss]

Gleam has Hereford (x KWS Kielder) in its parentage, Hereford has Deben in its parentage, Deben has Wasp in its parentage and so does Claire which has a relatively low vernalisation requirement. If (and it's a big if) Claire gets any of that trait from Wasp, Gleam might also have a lower vernalisation requirement. But looking across the flow chart below Maris Widgeon is in the Flame parentage, so the low vernalisation requirement in Claire could likely have come from its other genetics.

Hereford is a low take-all inoculum builder, so hopefully Gleam has inherited that characteristic as well.

 

[AT Aloss]

Gleam has Hereford (x KWS Kielder) in its parentage, Hereford has Deben in its parentage, Deben has Wasp in its parentage and so does Claire which has a relatively low vernalisation requirement. If (and it's a big if) Claire gets any of that trait from Wasp, Gleam might also have a lower vernalisation requirement. But looking across the flow chart below Maris Widgeon is in the Flame parentage, so the low vernalisation requirement in Claire could likely have come from its other genetics.

Hereford is a low take-all inoculum builder, so hopefully Gleam has inherited that characteristic as well.

There's also Maris Widgeon in the Hunter parentage of Deben, albeit a very long way back!

 

[dannewhouse]

Well I drilled 14 acre 7th Feb then we got these storms! Don't think I will bother with other field, it can have odd wet places in a dry year

 

[AT Aloss]

Well I drilled 14 acre 7th Feb then we got these storms! Don't think I will bother with other field, it can have odd wet places in a dry year

Have you managed to avoid the worst of the flooding?

 

[dannewhouse]

Have you managed to avoid the worst of the flooding?

Yes our farm is on the peak of a hill, good for flooding any way!
The drilled field only really suffers on 1 headland, I don't think it will do too bad but shouldn't loose much any way

 

[AT Aloss]

Just for future reference Gleam drilled 11th March is all in ear & looks ok