Would you insulate a wine cellar?

[Pond digger]

Well I’d insulate the ceiling from living accommodation above, but what about walls and floors? Perhaps building regs would insist?

 

[br jones]

Yes ,all walls floor and ceiling,to keep it a level temp

 

[Exfarmer]

A wine cellar, why? Can you not drink it fast enough? invite myself and wife and we will help you out of your dilemma very quickly
Otherwise, just do not buy wine that some expert decrees, needs ten years to mature .
I know these things, having far too much unpalatable plonk mouldering away in the back .

 

[Pond digger]

A wine cellar, why? Can you not drink it fast enough? invite myself and wife and we will help you out of your dilemma very quickly
Otherwise, just do not buy wine that some expert decrees, needs ten years to mature .
I know these things, having far too much unpalatable plonk mouldering away in the back .

Thanks for the kind offer of help, you can come and sample my fine Mateus rose. Just bring a bottle of Penfolds Grange with you.

 

[Little squeak]

when I saw the title to this thread I thought, some people must live in different world to me.

 

[Exfarmer]

Thanks for the kind offer of help, you can come and sample my fine Mateus rose. Just bring a bottle of Penfolds Grange with you.

Sorry I have no Penfolds, but I think I may have a couple of bottles of Blue Nun hiding away, would that do?

 

[Pond digger]

Sorry I have no Penfolds, but I think I may have a couple of bottles of Blue Nun hiding away, would that do?

 

[Netherfield]

We've thrown out some 40+ year old Sauternes found in the cellar of dads house. And some 20 year old jam.

 

[Larel]

We've thrown out some 40+ year old Sauternes found in the cellar of dads house. And some 20 year old jam.

Did you sample both before doing that? I’m not sure about the jam but the Sauternes could have been ok, couldn’t it?

 

[Netherfield]

Did you sample both before doing that? I’m not sure about the jam but the Sauternes could have been ok, couldn’t it?

The wine looked fine, but my nephew said it didn't taste good, the jam was strawberry and looked black.

 

[Exfarmer]

The wine looked fine, but my nephew said it didn't taste good, the jame was strawberry and looked black.

Did the nephew dispose of it?

 

[Exfarmer]

Did the nephew dispose of it?

Would have had a closer look at the jam too, always worth sampling!

 

[Netherfield]

Did the nephew dispose of it?

I left him with it, far too sweet for me anyway.

And I don't eat jam, so left it for anyone to take, no-one did so it went in a skip. Maybe his reputation for making jam went before him.

Also found a jar of Robertsons brandy Mincemeat, no date on the label,but it did have a golliwog on it, and a price ticket 1 shilling and 1 penny. It looked OK in the jar and when opened but no-one was brave enough to try it.

 

[Foxcover]

First world problems eh!

 

[Fruitloop]

We've thrown out some 40+ year old Sauternes found in the cellar of dads house. And some 20 year old jam.

Bonkers throwing out Sauternes. Did you check it before flinging? The good ones are really valuable. Apart from the value, it is exceptionally good in most cases.

 

[Fruitloop]

We've thrown out some 40+ year old Sauternes found in the cellar of dads house. And some 20 year old jam.

Actually made me feel a little unwell reading this. Feels like hearing of someone losing a winning lottery ticket.

 

[Pond digger]

Ok then, views on what to cellar, and for how long, to show best investment?

 

[Fruitloop]

I guess that it really depends on what you want to achieve. Is it for enjoying, an investment to spread your portfolio or a bit of both? Investment in wine is a real minefield and you need to be careful. Take professional advice. Very often you can get vintners to trade and store your cellar if you have enough cash to treat it as a trading position. That all costs money and I reckon there are some serious sharks in the game. You will have certain security and guarantees though. If you keep the wine at home you will always have problems verifying the consistency of your storage regime that gives buyers confidence that they are not going to have quality issues with wine they have bought from you. I would have a chat with Berry brothers in London, Tanners in Shrewsbury, Davy in London and other reputable long established houses. Get a feel for how the options work and make choices informed by someone more reliable than a random pudding wine nutter you met on TFF. As an illustration of what I mean, I had a boss who had put £1000 a month into a cellar with Berry's since 1977. It was worth millions. He was a mean old so and so and never touched it. His Business partner bought the cellar of a mutual friend who died of Cancer, as a means of helping his friends widow. It was stored at home in a special atmospheric chamber. The chamber broke down and it was not detected for a month. The wine was completely devalued as an investment, so he started drinking it. Loved it and reckoned it had a far higher value to him to enjoy spoiling friends and family than it ever would as a cold investment. Horses for courses. Good luck!

 

[Pond digger]

I guess that it really depends on what you want to achieve. Is it for enjoying, an investment to spread your portfolio or a bit of both? Investment in wine is a real minefield and you need to be careful. Take professional advice. Very often you can get vintners to trade and store your cellar if you have enough cash to treat it as a trading position. That all costs money and I reckon there are some serious sharks in the game. You will have certain security and guarantees though. If you keep the wine at home you will always have problems verifying the consistency of your storage regime that gives buyers confidence that they are not going to have quality issues with wine they have bought from you. I would have a chat with Berry brothers in London, Tanners in Shrewsbury, Davy in London and other reputable long established houses. Get a feel for how the options work and make choices informed by someone more reliable than a random pudding wine nutter you met on TFF. As an illustration of what I mean, I had a boss who had put £1000 a month into a cellar with Berry's since 1977. It was worth millions. He was a mean old so and so and never touched it. His Business partner bought the cellar of a mutual friend who died of Cancer, as a means of helping his friends widow. It was stored at home in a special atmospheric chamber. The chamber broke down and it was not detected for a month. The wine was completely devalued as an investment, so he started drinking it. Loved it and reckoned it had a far higher value to him to enjoy spoiling friends and family than it ever would as a cold investment. Horses for courses. Good luck!

Thanks for that. Its more for enjoyment, I’m Just thinking best use of cellar space. I wouldn’t dare risk serious money.